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Windows feature that screenshots everything labeled a security “disaster” (www.theverge.com)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 179 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Don’t worry, DRM-ed content isn’t recorded, so big companies’ IP is protected.

[–] [email protected] 120 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Make Mario my desktop background and stay protected forever by the holy power of Nintendo's lawyers.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Can you add a banknote or EURion symbol somewhere to dissuade image-processing software?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If the data stays on a local device why is drm protection even necessary 🤔

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago

because you're not "allowed" (in some places you are) to copy stuff you paid for.

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[–] Deceptichum 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Always keep Netflix open and playing to stay safe?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I think only the player is blocked, and would be shown in the screenshots as a black rectangle

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Source: DUH!!!!

[–] [email protected] 66 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Another study:

[–] [email protected] 54 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Peer review

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[–] [email protected] 100 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Imagine trying to use Wireshark on windows to debug or look at some service.

Just an avalanche of packets going to 20 different domains on idle.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 5 months ago

No, no. You see, Recall runs locally. It's "edge computing". Which would imply to me that it runs on my router...? Anyway, it's not the cloud, it's edge and AI and surely super cyber, too (whatever that means). My point is, I could give you many more buzzwords, so don't worry. You won't need Wireshark ever again, just ask the AI if your network is secured. 👍

[–] [email protected] 75 points 5 months ago (7 children)

I just installed Nobara today so I could finally rid myself of Windows hell and it’s been amazing.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Is that a linux distro?

[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Nobara is a Fedora distro(essentially backed by IBM) by Glorious Eggroll (developer who made Proton GE) designed to be more gaming user oriented, as many of its preincluded configs and applications were tailored to gamers.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago

Calling Fedora IBM backed feels so wrong but technically true I guess.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago

It is, a gaming focused Fedora distro to be exact.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Kinda funny, not too long ago it was a fun mental exercise if you were paying attention to the tech industry to try to think of the ways in which Google or MS could fall.

Now, AFAICT, neither are falling any time soon, but there certainly seems to be a shift in how they're perceived and how their brand sits in the market (where even so I'm still probably in a bubble on this).

But I'm not sure how predictable it would have been that both would look silly stumbling for AI dominance.

And, yea, I'm chalking recall up to the AI race as it seems like a grab for training data to me, and IIRC there were some clues around that this could be true.

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[–] thetreesaysbark 64 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Jesus Christ. All these requirements for something most people didn't ask for:

System requirements for Recall

Your PC needs the following minimum system requirements for Recall:

A Copilot+ PC

16 GB RAM

8 logical processors

256 GB storage capacity

    To enable Recall, you’ll need at least 50 GB of storage space free

    Saving screenshots automatically pauses once the device has less than 25 GB of storage space

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Sounds like the way around this is to make swap space take up the drive up to 24 GB. Then trim the swap space as you need it.

I know it says "to enable" but let's be real here. It's going to be a placebo switch.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Every update :

"Let's get Recall set up for you!!!!"

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Microscopic "Maybe later" button in the USA...

Normal sized "No" button in Europe...

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

If it's anything like the "sign into your Microsoft account to continue" bullshit, there will be no cancel button. You'll need to cast an archaic spell where you summon a spirit from the Netherworld, who then just gives you a 60 minute lecture on enshitification and why you should install Arch.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So Windows 11 has a built-in keylogger!

[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 months ago

If only that. This is much more invasive

[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 months ago

If you’re faced with the tradeoff between security and another priority, your answer is clear: Do security. In some cases, this will mean prioritizing security above other things we do, such as releasing new features or providing ongoing support for legacy systems. This is key to advancing both our platform quality and capability such that we can protect the digital estates of our customers and build a safer world for all.

Satya Nadella, CEO of Microsoft, 03 May 2024

You keep using that word... I do not think it means what you think it means.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago (24 children)

Who even wants this? What good is it? I see no use case.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad 20 points 5 months ago

Microsoft is talking control over its ecosystem. Will it police your os for piracy? Look at what you do so it can sell you products? The use case is infinite once they have the data

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 months ago

FTFY: Windows ~~feature that screenshots everything labeled~~ is a security “disaster”

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 months ago (1 children)

no one does enshittification quite like the masters of it at ms

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Embrace, Extend, Enshittify I guess it is nowadays.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I miss when Microsoft was just evil and greedy and not stupid.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Is it stupid? I doubt MS cares about the absolutely miniscule amount of people who will care enough to complain about this. Those people would probably just turn the feature off, or use a different OS, anyway. Catering to that audience isn't something MS cares about.

The average user won't do a thing. MS gets to outsource the computational work of all this spying to their users and then hoover up the data at the end. Microsoft stands to gain a lot from this in the markets where it will be allowed to fly.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean who is surprised at this point?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

That's the problem. They keep pushing this shit until people get desensitized and see it as "normal." We absolutely need to shout and rant about this ridiculous crap, everytime.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago

How many screenshots of security "disasters" does a person really need?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago

Microsoft: trust us bro!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I hate this feature but if that UI is real it's beautiful

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It's not, it just a marketing image.
Say what you will about Microsoft and Win11 but their 3D animated trailers and marketing images look amazing

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[–] captain_aggravated 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

How does this make Microsoft money? What's their path to selling the result of this feature?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Probably targeted ads, since they claim the data doesn't leave the device, they get the AI to figure out what type of ads to show.