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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world. About 1C of total warming. Second chart: about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability. Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases. About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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Global rich must pay more to tackle climate crisis, says architect of Paris deal | Laurence Tubiana, one of experts behind 2015 agreement, calls for taxes or charges on consumption (www.theguardian.com)
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The richest 1% of people in the world are responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions than the 66% at the other end of the scale, yet they experience little of the vulnerability to climate shocks that are causing suffering and death, mainly among poorer people.

I couldn't agree more. Which countries will implement those taxes tho?

While most of the discussion at Cop29, and in Bonn, will focus on how to raise the money needed, but questions over how it should be spent also need to be resolved.

So to my understanding, once more the talk has to be focused on sustaining the money flow, not sustaining the environment.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

So to my understanding, once more the talk has to be focused on sustaining the money flow, not sustaining the environment.

Yes and this is unsurprising. Before, but definitely since COVID, we know there is a substantial portion of humanity, that just can't be convinced or motivated to engage in collective preventative action, especially if it means sacrificing now for a delayed, uncertain reward to the community and no guaranteed personal gain.

That means, the best we can do is "symptomatic treatment", which costs money and won't solve the root cause.

That's one aspect of humans, where it becomes evident we are actually still animals and are not really ready to be a supra-planetary species.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

we know there is a substantial portion of humanity, that just can't be convinced or motivated to engage in collective preventative action

That's one aspect of humans

I can't disagree more. Especially during COVID, you could see that most of the people unwilling to wear a mask belonged to a certain political group, and watched certain media that told them to act in such a way. I could bring you the opposite example with China, where the regulations worked extremely well and people didn't do this bullshit. It's not a human trait, it's just a certain ideology promoting selfishness.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

INB4 a bunch of first-world middle-class people in this thread conveniently think the "global rich" includes only people slightly richer than them.