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[–] actionjbone 55 points 10 months ago (6 children)

First they'd need to start making good smartphones again.

/typed this on a Motorola phone

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

I have a moto from 2019 and I'm proud to announce that its has better support for Lineage os and includes a headphone jack.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

My Edge 40 is not too bad, except the fact that the nfc chip has needle point accuracy, so I have to place my phone exactly on the right place and somehow freeze my hand still at an atomic level or it wont work, but other than that it's pretty cool.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

I'm pretty happy with my edge 20, after going through a bunch of other brands in the past years. Any other brand I suspect may be better than Motorola is just not available anywhere near me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

I've liked my 22 moto

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Which one??

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My Moto G Stylus 5g (terrible name) is quite good. I can't fathom buying a high-range phone when my $300 one has more processing power than I have ever used, including when playing games.

[–] actionjbone 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

My Moto G Stylus 5G 2023 (worse name) works fine, but it's bigger than I'd like. Also, the camera is worse than I was expecting.

I'd still be using my old Moto X4 if the power button hadn't failed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I'm a manchild so I like how big it is. The camera fits my purposes tbh.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They'll need to lift their game on software updates for that to happen. Many of their handsets ship with an outdated version of Android, and they rarely see more than one major update.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

This is what caused me to switch off Motorola. Their Moto Z phone with the magnet attachment thing was badass. But it was 2 major android versions behind, and was no longer receiving security updated by the third year I owned it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Custom ROMs work well on supported devices.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No doubt, but custom ROMs aren't on your average buyers radar.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

True, although as far as I can tell they are getting a bit more popular on pixels as more people seek privacy.

Still pennies though

[–] timbuck2themoon 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Get me a decent phone with a jack and unlockable bootloader and yeah, I'd at least give you one sale.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

I just want a refreshed Nexus 6. The 16:9 screen and front facing speakers made it so good for watching stuff.

[–] spiritedpause 20 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It would help to not have a complete mess of a naming scheme for their phones. It should be:

Moto E: Budget/entry level Moto G: Mid-range Moto Edge/RAZR: Flagship phones

There’s no need to confuse everything by adding 20 different versions of each tier with stylus/power/activ/whatever added to the name.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

What's worse is that there are a bunch of country specific naming that leaves out what countries it won't work in. I bought a device, returned it and bought the same device only to realize it doesn't work in the US.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Skimmed through their 2023 lineup and it kind of looks like Samsung a few years ago. Still, not as bad as Xiaomi and their amazing models and suffixes, which is a consolation prize I'm not sure any company should be proud of having.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Moto Z? πŸ₯Ί

Seriously top tier phones, Z Force series was amazing

[–] spiritedpause 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Forgot about the Moto Z, I’d actually prefer they name their flagships that over Moto Edge

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I just want the mods and the shatterproof screen back

[–] can 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

β€œI would bet a paycheck that in three years we will be number three around the world,” Zielinski said, laying out Lenovo’s ambition with Motorola.

He'd bet a paycheque. Not like he's betting his job on it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

@can about $10 in layman's money.

@Blaze

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

TLDR: They think they'll convert a large enough portion of the premium market (in specific geographic markets) that it'll put them into the top three.

Zielinski said most of the users for the Razr smartphone have converted from using a device that is β€œnot Android based.”

Part of the growth strategy revolves around the premium segment of the market, in which Apple and Samsung dominate.

β€œWe’re going to place as many bets as we can because we think the growth of the Indian population is fantastic, and they’re wonderful people.”

[–] emergencyfood 1 points 10 months ago

This might work. Xiaomi used to lead the Indian market around 2015-20, but in the last 2-3 years their phones haven't improved significantly. And Moto is doing the same thing Xiaomi did before, releasing phones with good specs at low prices. The big drawback with their phones compared to Xiaomi is the weak SoC (and for power users the lack of official support for custom ROMs).

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm surprised it's not already. Had to look it up.

Apple

Samsung

Huawei

Moto

So they plan on overtaking Huawei.

[–] evo 22 points 10 months ago

Nope, Moto is 8th.

According to IDC, the top three smartphone brands last year were Apple (20.1%), Samsung (19.4%), and Xiaomi (12.5%).Β 

Moto only has 4% market share currently...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Huh, didn't know Lenovo bought Motorola

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

That happened 10 years ago...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

They bought Motorola Mobility switch is a totally different company

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They also bought the ThinkPad line.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

I wouldn't buy another piece of Motorola/Lenovo garbage for any amount of money.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I am never going to buy a phone from a company with strong ties with the CCP, and a history of installing spyware on its products.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

only certified grade A American spyware for me please 😀😀😀

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Have you got any sources for Motorola phones coming with spyware on them?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

"The Chinese computer manufacturer Lenovo has been sentenced in the USA to pay USD 3.5 m as a fine for installing malware and adware (Superfish) on its laptops without informing its customers. By doing so, Lenovo committed the offence of computer break-in, as it wilfully undermined the security of its computers for users and made them vulnerable to cyber attacks."

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-8-2017-005922_EN.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/roslynlayton/2022/12/28/as-china-tech-crackdown-continues-dont-overlook-the-danger-of-lenovo/?sh=5d27e6f25d72

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-45756685

You are probably going to say "but those are Lenovo laptops, not Motorola phones".

Lenovo owns Motorola. If you want to trust the company feel free to do so.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Thanks for the info, I was not aware

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You are probably going to say "but those are Lenovo laptops, not Motorola phones".

I asked for sources on Motorola phones being compromised, but I ain't seeing that still?

Aspersions don't equal anecdotes > evidence. You show me that and I'll shout louder than you.

[–] guiguinofake 4 points 10 months ago

Install LineageOS on it

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Go back to making phones like the moto X pure and we'll talk.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lenovo laptops are trash so I imagine their phones would be trash too. I'll stick to Pixel.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

My last three phones were pixels, latest is a Motorola. Finally having battery life again is sweet.

[–] guiguinofake 3 points 10 months ago

I had a Motorola until I broke the screen and pierced the battery trying to change the screen and damn do I miss the headphone port

[–] evo 2 points 10 months ago

They are currently having 4%. There's no way they triple or quadruple that in 3 years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Pretty exciting! Not going so great for their current phones.