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[–] Avorn -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Please explain to me how a lack of ownership over things that you buy is a stale topic?

Has this been solved in a meaningful way? Is the problem getting better?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No, but repeating the same phrase in memes all over Lemmy for 862nd time doesn't make anything to solve the problem, it just irritates many.

Absolute majority of Lemmyverse is already in favor of piracy, it's a circlejerk, move on.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm gonna be completely honest here; I made the meme to see how much attention such a simple (and probably idea-stolen) post could get. I'm not disappointed.

Don't get me wrong, it's still a very important topic, but I'm too lazy to defend my statement in the comments.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How is it not stale? The inaccurate and dishonest framing of a situation from this meme isn't going to convince anyone of anything.

Nobody gets charged with theft for downloading movies and music. They get hit with copyright infringement. Doesn't matter if you buy physical media that you owned or digital media that you licensed, either way you never purchased the copyright.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It isn't about what the charges are it is about what people think. If we redefined the crime of murder as "foo" and charged people the same way it isn't like murder went away.

Whatever value copyright was supposed to give us it has failed to do so. Abolish it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

What a weird stance that you don't think anyone should be able to be compensated for their work. That's literally what the purpose of copyright is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Actually that's not the purpose of copyright - people would be able to profit without copyright. You can argue about how much or how little they could profit, or how much more or less convenient it would be to consume their work. The purpose of copyright is to limit this period of exclusivity, and ensure that after the period expires, ownership reverts to the people. It's a trade- government allows exclusive profit on the condition that it is temporary.

The problem is copyright has been perverted over the last hundred years, mostly by Disney, to the point that it is effectively permanent.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Where did I say that strawman?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You want to do away with copyright. Maybe think a bit harder about the implications of the things you think you want.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Maybe you can point out where I said what you claimed I said. I want to see it. Not what you choose to infer because strawman arguments are easier than actual arguments.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe you can point out where I said what you claimed I said.

I guess I'll just reply with your own comment:

It isn’t about what the charges are it is about what people think. If we redefined the crime of murder as “foo” and charged people the same way it isn’t like murder went away.

Whatever value copyright was supposed to give us it has failed to do so. Abolish it.

Maybe you don't actually know what abolish means?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

that you don’t think anyone should be able to be compensated for their work.

Point to the comment that I advocated this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

How is someone going to be compensated for their creative work if anyone can come along and just make copies of it? Copyright prevents people from just making copies of other people's work. You want to do away with copyright, thus removing that protection and severely hindering the ability of anyone to make money from creative works.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Point to the comment that I advocated this.

Why can't you admit that you lied? It is fairly easy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

>That’s literally what the purpose of copyright is.

the purpose of copyrigth is to stop 18th century british printers from breaking each others' knees over who was allowed to publish the works of long-dead shakespeare

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

>you don’t think anyone should be able to be compensated for their work.

that's not what they said. no one is saying that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

As the guy who started this meme, I totally never get tired of seeing it.