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Critique (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

I literally do blame the Democrats for Trump, and if you don't, you weren't paying attention.

Plenty of us were critiquing Clinton's campaign on those merits and were consistently talked down to in shocker the same way we're being talked down to now. Shocker, she lost. I remember saying a few weeks before the election "We're about to get Brexited." I put my vote down for Clinton, because Trump is fucking insane, and that was clear before he was President. It was clear in the fucking 1980's.

Being able to critique our leaders is supposed to be what is the difference between us and conservative voters. They're the cult who unquestioningly believes all the bullshit that comes out of Trump's mouth and diapers. I find it weird that people think we should be more like them in regards to our leaders like that would be a good thing.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

didn't she also illegally sabotage Bernie?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The primaries were rigged against Bernie so the insider's pick would be on the democratic ticket, yes

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But unfortunately, not illegal because they're a private club, so they can make their own rules.

They literally argued in court it was legal for them to just smoke cigars in back rooms and choose the candidate, and that we should be happy that we even get sham proceedings.

They didn't argue that they didn't tip the scales for Clinton in court because discovery would have shown that wasn't true.

If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts; if you have the law on your side, pound the law; if you have neither the facts nor the law, pound the table.

They couldn't pound the facts so they pounded the law.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean, that's fair and I'm fine with their right to do whatever they want in their club

It's bullshit that I'm 'part of the problem' when I want nothing to do with them

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, to be fair, man. I don't think you're part of the problem if you're not voting for Trump and Republicans.

If you want to vote third party, you do you. We could argue policy of your choice party, but I'm not going to tell you that you're wrong or part of the problem for being done with being bullied by Democrats.

Because it is bullying to hang fascism over our heads like a threat. "Better vote for us, or you'll get even worse!"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hell I'm still gonna vote for Biden I guess. Even though my county will go 60/70% blue and my state 60/70% red no matter what so I might as well sit on the couch

Someday we'll be able to tell these old guard 90's dems to eat it. They'll die soon enough anyway

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I wish I could promote your response here to the whole fucking world, because I think it speaks loudly of the very issue we're discussing.

Hell I’m still gonna vote for Biden I guess

Notice how much easier it was to say that when someone was being considerate of your opinion and not bullying you into submission to vote for Biden? Like this is what all the people in this thread are fucking missing.

We want Republicans to lose and we're willing to suck it up and vote for a Democrat to make that happen, but if you're abusive to us on the internet about it, guess what, we're unlikely to respond well to that.

Shocking, people don't like being bullied and when you're nice to them, you suddenly get what you're looking for. A lot of these people could learn a lot from this single interaction between two people who spoke to each other respectfully.

I think you're pretty cool, GreatCornholio, and thanks for helping prove what I already felt: A lot of us would be less pissy about the whole Biden thing if we weren't being fucking bullied so hard about it.