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Rob Schneider tells United Airlines CEO he won't fly airline because it prioritizes ‘diversity’ over 'safety' (www.foxnews.com)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you’re making selections based on diversity, you’re fundamentally not focusing on hiring the best of the best.

Are there no women and people of color in the best of the best?

I mean, get what you're trying to say, but you're making unwarranted assumptions about the demographics of the cream of the crop. So, I'm trying to get you to either realize you're doing that and retract basically everything you've said so far, or to keep exploring what you think the best look like and why DEI is antithetical to picking people those meritorious looking people.

[–] MomoTimeToDie -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The best is the best, regardless of whatever bs diversity qualities. You'll get them without having to specifically look for shit like race and sex. Looking for those instead means you're no longer looking for the best, you're looking for whoever meets minimum standards and is also an acceptable race

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

If demographics don't matter, then what exactly is wrong with preferring someone of an acceptable race in the best of the best? (You still haven't said whether there are women and people of color in the best of the best or not...so let's assume there are.)

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

preferring someone of an acceptable race in the best of the best

All races are acceptable. You do know race is just a social construct right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do you know what a social construct is?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago

Yes, I do.

[–] MomoTimeToDie -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because the moment you're preferring race, you're fundamentally not preferring something else, and if you ask me, race is pretty much the absolute bottom of the list of things to judge people on.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I said, let's assume that the best of the best is diverse in demographics.

You're saying that race preferences necessarily exclude other preferences. But what is not being excluded is whether any given person is the best of the best by our assumption.

So, sure, race can be the absolute bottom of the list of things to judge people on, but that's inconsequential. We're still highly qualified candidates.

It seems like I'm missing something: what other preferences should take precedence over race, then? We're already at the top of the top, the most whipped of the whipped cream. What other preferences might you prefer to take precedence over race at this level?

Or are you saying something else entirely?

[+] MomoTimeToDie -6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But what is not being excluded is whether any given person is the best of the best by our assumption.

I mean if you want to work from a false premise, there's no point in further having this discussion

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I literally asked you to correct me.

there’s no point in further having this discussion

That's where I'm at, too. Thx for the argument.

[+] MomoTimeToDie -6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I literally asked you to correct me.

I did. Multiple fucking times. But it didn't fit whatever stupid strawman you wanted, so you just ignored it and acted stupid. Or more realistically, it wasn't an act

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You've my permission to have the last word after this:

None of you that I've argued with so far have any idea what you're saying.

I can't press you on anything because, as far as I can tell, your beliefs are completely (or mostly, in Winter's case) divorced from reality and logic. I mean, you consider thought experiments as strawmen, for god's sake! Your "corrections" fail to correct me when I'm trying to be corrected. You make the same logical mistakes over and over and over with nary a hint of awareness. You're all unable to consider alternatives that might lead to the same consequences, and you can't see that you can't either.

Nonetheless, it was a good argument. So, again, thanks. But I definitely won't be doing this again with y'all.