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Quote from the book:
'I'd put some lube on and got him on his knees, and I began to slide into him from behind. I pulled out of him and kissed him while he masturbated. He asked me to turn over while he slipped a condom on himself.
'This was my a** and I was struggling to imagine someone inside me. He got on top and slowly inserted himself into me. It was the worst pain I think I have ever felt in my life. Eventually, I felt a mix of pleasure with the pain.'
Im like 90% sure that quote violates lemmy.world's rules against porn.
Ive had conversations about similar books, but I still dont get it. I honestly dont understand why that belongs within 300 feet of a school.
Seriously? I don't think you could have sex ed for teenagers with less detail than this. The only porny word in the whole thing is "slipped".
Still doesnt belong in a school library.
A quick search shows that around 6% of teens get pregnant, and around half were accidental. This number includes teens out of highschool 18-19. So we can assume the number of people in highschool will be lower. The percentage of unexpected/unwanted will rise.
I know this may sound odd talking about a hetero experience when it comes to a gay book, but my highschool experience with anything sex education was almost strictly abstinence.
Children are just going to do things because they don't understand the consequences. You say "don't do it" and people will do it just to spite you. You tell them "unprotected sex will get you STI's that will kill you" and while the number of people having sex barely changes, both STI rates and unwanted pregnancy rates drop. It is wild what a tiny amount of sex education can do to save people's lives.
Anyways as long as it's a culture war issue and that topic can't even be brought to the table then I don't care about people prudish attitudes, and they can get bent. I'm giving them the same amount of respect they'll give me. If we aren't going to teach kids then having at least something that kids MIGHT want to read that has ANY sex education in it is a victory. There is no reason why other people's religious views should effect other people's children. If you want your child to have a higher chance of being raped then it should be up to the parents to make sure the school knows to not put them in sex education, not the other way around. It is better for every metric, out side of "feelings", that sex education is better for children to have.
I thought school was supposed to be about preparing children for adulthood. Or has conservatism become wanting school to be nothing but a state sponsored day care?
No. If school was meant for that, we would focus on skills such as driving, balancing a checkbook, cooking food, etc. School is about preparing you for employment.
To be fair, I had a woodworking class, cooking class, auto class, and I also got into the school's media team where I learned to edit videos. There technically was a health class with a week of bad sex education.
So maybe my school was "built different" but I am going to still choose to believe it was trash tier from the other schools I went to before it.
So you don't actually care about making good policy, you just want to be mad?
What? I said "as long as it's a culture war issue." meaning that people are playing dirty, and refuse to not play dirty.
So I am saying restricting sex education is a bad policy, and the moral thing to do is to teach children, specifically young adults, about the world is a good thing. The policy I'm advocating for is good sex education, and conservatives want to argue for a system that allows for more pederasty. How can I not be against that?
But "good" policy is subjective. Talking policy in a partisan space like this won't move anyone. I would be screaming into a void.
I also want good sex Ed. But I don't consider obscene books in an uncontrolled setting to be even remotely decent sex Ed. It's no better than just handing them Google, and telling them safe search is off.
If you find it obscene then make a book that queer youths can relate to that can replace it. As it currently stands if that book is the only thing that some queer youths can find commonality in then it is a good book to have for their mental health.
If they're so desperate, they can read it on their own. School libraries don't hold a monopoly on book distribution
I really wish I could grab your eyes and make you look at the state of children.
I have a brother inlaw who is used to be in the FBI a few years ago, who found out he was Asexual. Before that realization it put a huge strain on his marriage.
There is no way to learn about something that you have no idea even exists. If they will fire you for talking about the possibility of liking the same sex, then someone can suggest the book instead of becoming at risk of getting fired. Once again, getting fired for saying that anything but hetero exists at all is bad, and this gives a way to "talk" about it.