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[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago (50 children)

Is Graphene OS good? Any downsides? I need to get a new phone soon.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (13 children)

I switched to it a year ago and I like it. The biggest draw for me is it gives me back control and ownership over my phone. It gives you actual and thorough control over what apps can do on your phone including Google's apps, which on other typical Android OS are being given all or most permissions with no ability for you to deny access to any of them.

To gain almost all the functionality of a regular Android OS you can install Google Play Services and run it sandboxed, which means it will only do what you allow it to do and access only what you will allow it to access, which for me is the bare minimum before things stop working too much for my tastes.

Besides Android auto for now, the only thing that won't work for me on it is my banking app, probably because of all the security checks involved in it. But I just use the browser-based online service to do my banking operations instead.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Banking apps can usually be defeated by Magisk in Zygist mode, then you use the deny list to hide things from the app. Some might check with Google for security, which is much more difficult and maybe even impossible to circumvent, but in my experience these days they work fine.

[–] Salix 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Don't you need to root to use Magisk? You can't root in GrapheneOS

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

You can tho its not advised

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

Magisk is how you get root.

Magisk also allows app spoofing, which may be something of a security risk, but using it to bypass things like banking app checks is one of the benefits. Personally, I like having root, and to me the benefits are worth the risk.

It may even be that GrapheneOS uses a little bit of Magisk's type of functionality. At least, that's how LineageOS4MicroG works - you need app spoofing to install MicroG, however this ROM comes with it preinstalled but disabled for anything else, so it closes the security hole. However, you probably can't defeat Google's SafetyNet with MicroG anymore.

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