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[–] 0x4E4F 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The UK used to have half pennies. But then the UK also used to have 144 pennies in 1 pound.

I gather this is imperial system related.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And/or inbred royals being in charge back then related, I bet..

[–] 0x4E4F 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's the square of a dozen, 12²=144.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

shakes head inbred people and their characteristic love of math..

[–] 0x4E4F 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, Newton was English 🤷...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

True. Boy George too. Also: Vinnie Jones.

[–] Socsa 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

12 is arguably a better arithmetic base than 10 since it divides nicely by 2, 3, 4 and 6 instead of just 2 and 5.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wish some countries would go this way and use 12-based as a default, while others would use 8-based because it's closer to computers, and others will continue using 10-based.

And then no-one will denote the system used because it's the default, how's that you don't understand. Oh what a beautiful world we'd be living in 🥰

[–] Socsa 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The point is that there are benefits to several different arithmetic bases for different purposes and forming some kind of dogma around any of them is weird.

[–] 0x4E4F 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, there isn't a perfect one... better just agree on using one, whichever that might be.

[–] Socsa 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Agree, so we will all just use hexadecimal since it is a convenient way to represent both fixed point and floating point arithmetic.

[–] 0x4E4F 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sure, I'm down with that if everyone else is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Username does (not) check out.

[–] 0x4E4F 2 points 11 months ago

Ah, ASCII runs deep in this one I see 🫡.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There is no dogma, when doing maths you're free to use anything even as esoteric as Fibonacci base. The problem is when this becomes widespread but not everywhere.

If you're for using it "for different purposes" I can't even understand the point of your original comment, why preach?

[–] Socsa 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I am definitely not the one being preachy about a particular base. I am the one advocating flexibility over dogma.

All I did was point out that 12 is easier to divide cleanly than ten, and this very simple fact has pissed many people off for some reason.

[–] 0x4E4F 2 points 11 months ago

Yes, I do agree with that. It just takes time getting used to it.

[–] MrNobody 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If only we had a way to have numbers smaller than 1.

[–] Socsa 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Right, having more whole, proper fractions to work with can also be simpler (and more precise) than truncating decimals and dealing with the implications of significant figures. I just don't understand why people are so hostile to this as a basic idea. Base 12 has benefits, just like base ten does.