@ernest how do I report a Magazin on kbin.social ? There is a usere called "ps" who is posting to his own "antiwoke" Magazin on kbin.social. Please remove this and dont give them a chance to etablish them self on kbin.social. When I report his stuff it will go to him because he is the moderator of the magazin? Seems like a problem. Screenshot of the "antiwoke" Magazin /sub on kbin.social. 4 Headlines are visible, 2 exampels: "Time to reject the extrem trans lobby harming our society" "How to end wokeness" #Moderation #kbin #kbin.social π
edit: dont feed the troll, im shure ernest will delet them all when he sees this. report and move on.
Edit 2 : Ernest responded:
"I just need a little more time. There will likely be a technical break announced tomorrow or the day after tomorrow. Along with the migration to new servers, we will be introducing new moderation tools that I am currently working on and testing (I had it planned for a bit later in my roadmap). Then, I will address your reports and handle them very seriously. I try my best to delete sensitive content, but with the current workload and ongoing relocation, it takes a lot of time. I am being extra cautious now. The regulations are quite general, and I would like to refine them together with you and do everything properly. For now, please make use of the option to block the magazine/author."
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@Noki @ernest I dunno. Sounds like they are trying to spread some interesting ideas which might have a positive impact on society.
It is called freedom of speech. So either provide a meaningful debate with an opposing view, or block them by yourself to create your own "safe space".
No, Iβm not interested in engaging with bigots. Weβre going to defederate.
@Harlan_Cloverseed @ernest @Noki Awe, poor baby... Point on the doll where the bad words from the mean people hurt you.
Good luck in your safe space echo chamber full of circle jerking sessions.
The fediverse is enlightening, raw, brutal, honest, horrifying, and beautiful. Full of unbridled knowledge and wisdom. Real instances let users decide what content to block and mute.
Should you ever discover your overies, or testicles again. The uncensored fediverse will be here waiting for you.
ovaries* lol
Again. Wanting to actively hurt people you think are unworthy of living in peace is not freedom of speech. It's hate speech. And it's a whole different thing.
@szczur @ernest @Noki The problem with hate speech is that hate is in the eye of the beholder. What is hate speech to one person is truth to someone else.
You can misconstrue anything into hate speech, fascism, racism, or biggotry if your mental gymnastics game is on point enough too.
This is why cognitive dissonance, brainwashing, and social decay is at epidemic levels world wide.
Words can't hurt you, or anyone. Only you allow words to affect yourself. Master your own thoughts and emotions.
Words are a vessel of emotions and general narrative. And they can hurt, especially when targeted at a minority fighting for rights. Not only does it make the people in question less "valid", it also affects them in making their fight for rights more difficult.
And about hate speech, no. Hate speech is hate speech. Always. For instance, you can deny climate change and even call it "religion" and that's fine. It's your opinion, it's something you believe in. I can think it's a dumb opinion and try to make you think otherwise, but ultimately, presecuting you for thinking that way and voicing your opinions is a violation of free speech. Because climate change, while it affects a lot of people, is not generally tied to people being one way or the other.
Transphobia, though, just like racism and antisemitism, are not interested in disagreeing with what trans people do or believe in. It has to do with disagreeing with their fundamental right to be and exist. Just like racism is not interested in criticizing what people of colour do. That's where that "mental gymnastics" bullshit comes in, and it's important. Thinking climate change is a hoax is an opinion. Thinking red onions are better than white ones is an opinion. Thinking it's okay to provide platform for people spreading dehumanising rhetoric posing an actual existential threat to a marginalized group is not an opinion. It has to do what it targets. If your rhetoric targets people for no other reason than your bigotry, I'm sorry, but it's hate speech. And it's really different than freedom of speech and freedom of opinion. Of course, you could criticize certain aspects of what trans people actually do in a civil manner. It's alright. But once you start to question the very way of them being trans it's over with free speech.
Hope you get that now.
@szczur @ernest @Noki How I view trans people falls into 2 categories. Not a phobia (lol).
1.) Legitimately mentally ill. Pity them for succumbing to gender dysphoria. By means of bad influences and diet. Unbalanced hormones, ideas, and emotions causes gender confusion. Deserves help to recover.
2.) Groomer pedophiles. Using the LGB community as a shield for acts of evil.
As for hate speech, my previous post still stands. Master your own thoughts and emotions. I won't censor to cater to them.
Thanks for proving my point!
You think climate change is made up
@GataZapata @ernest @Noki Sorry, I do not subscribe to the climate change grifters religion.
Too many dozens of false predictions that have come and passed over the course of the past hundred years for it to be believable anymore.
spoken like someone who dropped out of HS
Right. That, to me, says you are not a reasonable person
@GataZapata @ernest @Noki I'm actually one of the most reasonable and open minded individuals you'll ever meet.
I'm also very highly skilled in conducting independent investigations for researching subject matters that interest me.
Climate change interested me. I learned as much as I could. Practically every historical climate change deadline prediction has come, gone, and been proven wrong.
Climate change is the boy who cried wolf story for me now. It's a grift for power, money, and control.
You thinking your own independent research weighs more than the conclusions of all the professionals of the topic combined screams you are not reasonable. That is easily in the top 5 retarded takes.
Also no. Not all predictions have been disproven. It is far more likely you just don't understand shit. I will now stop engaging with you as if you had a point. I don't want to validate you.
@GataZapata @ernest @Noki Awe, I am sorry that you don't have the patience, investigative ability, evidence, and/or willingness to openly debate me on this subject matter.
Don't worry, most climate change believers won't either. They are like you. Right after my opening arguments they say a few clever words with little to no point that attack my character. Then walk away like they won.
In reality this how you come off to any logical person observing our conversation.
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You are a retarded person. Discussing this with you, with you taking pride in rejecting unified scientific finding, shows you are not just ignorant but proud of it. Discussion with you is futile, because you do not want to discuss or change your mind. You want your weird little shit ideas to be right, in spite of all the evidence presented to you by society over many years.
You are not an intelligent man. You are not reasonable. Your position is not right, or even defensible anymore. By clinging to it, you disqualify yourself from rational conversation at the adults table.
There is no point discussing with you if you make your own facts and live in your own imagined world where right is wrong. I implore you, stop being such an asinine person and look at IPCC data projection. Look at them and think about what they mean for your life and the world around you. As long as you refuse to recognize the data before you, you cannot be reasoned with. Goodbye. I hope you get better.
@GataZapata @ernest @Noki Thank you for proving my point in my previous post. This time with more bravado and gusto. Bravo.... (Lmao)
Attacking my personal character.
Unwilling to do an open, honest, and fair debate.
Flips the table, rage quits, and storms off like they've won.
It is both hilarious, childish, and beyond pathetic.
Here's to hoping that you mature and grow up, but we both know that probably will never happen.
Cheers!
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I don't attack your character. I attack the pride with which you hold on to easily disproven ideas. It makes you dumb.
I cannot do a real argument with you- you have no point. All the evidence is stacked against you. There is simply no point in you repeating lies to me.
You have also not provided a single argument in this exchange-what climate change theories have been disproven, for example. Your first coent says 'all of them' but you never specify, never cite a source or anything else. Because you can't. You pull it out of your ass to ragebait and then act like a high and mighty intellectual. But you are the opposite-you deny knowledge and hold on to your weird ideas in spite of facts being repeated to you from all sides. There is no productive discourse to be had with you.
@GataZapata @ernest @Noki You didn't ask for evidence. You didn't even want to hear what I had to say.
You just said the evidence is stacked against you so why would I listen to what one person has to say? Then attacked me personally, not my pride (lol).
This is the attitude of a child who isn't capable of an adult argument. A person who treats science as a religion, but can't be scientific themselves. A scientist, or open minded person would be interested to see any evidence could I provide.
Provide then. I would be astounded if you could produce a scientifically sound and peer reviewed source that disproves climate change. In fact, I think producing such resultds would net you several honor-tenures and or Nobel prizes.
If you cannot, I am happy to send you a veritable library of recognized scholars who say the exact opposite of your take.
@GataZapata @ernest @Noki Now that I called you out on your shit you want to try and act like an adult to save face for being childish?
Nope, you don't get the satisfaction. Not, because I can't have a debate with you, but rather you no longer deserve it.
Everyone in the Fediverse saw your true nature and depths of patheticness today.
You had your chance to have an open, honest, and civil debate. You fucked up. Now I'm going to treat you like the child you are and tell you to go to your room.
So you have no sources for your wild takes. When pressed you cannot provide a single one and deflect like an 8th grader without homework lol.
The accusations you have launched at me during this exchange are projections of what you argue like.
Thanks for clearing up that you don't actually have a point. Bye