this post was submitted on 14 Oct 2023
16 points (100.0% liked)
Hacker News
202 readers
3 users here now
This community serves to share top posts on Hacker News with the wider fediverse.
Rules
0. Keep it legal
- Keep it civil and SFW
- Keep it safe for members of marginalised groups
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Good!! When we visited the UK literally no one speeds. It's so much safer!
They use average speed cameras. One at point A another a few miles down the road at point B. If you get there faster than the possible posted speed limit, boom, speeding ticket.
None of that is true.
In the UK you absolutely do have your right to face your accuser it's just not in some magic constitution it doesn't mean it doesn't exist though as a law.
But as has already been pointed out to you the accuser isn't the traffic camera, it's the police. If you speed the camera takes a picture of you, it looks you up in a database and it sends you a fine. If you then want to contest the fine then the police will review the footage, in some cases they will drop the charge at this point, otherwise it goes to court. So in any scenario where it goes to court a human will have looked at the footage, and therefore the human will be your accuser.
Arguing that you should be allowed to speed regularly just because of a technicality is stupid (and probably won't work as a legal defence) and isn't in the spirit of the law.
We're taking about California, which has already automated red and speeding traffic enforcement in places like San Francisco and they send the tickets with zero human review.
Right, but I'm just pointing out that what you said about the UK is not true, in the UK you do have the right to face your accuser.
I then explained why that is not an issue with speed cameras.