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Yep. No decent person supports Hamas' actions. But no one should be surprised this happened, either. Desperate people do desperate things and support groups that can effect change, even if their methods are awful. Fear for your family's lives is an incredible motivator.
I place most of blame for this on Netanyahu's and greater Israeli government's policies of genocide that has been going on for decades.
If Israel had started to "genocide" the Palestinians 20 years ago, then the conflict would have been over 19 years and 11 months ago due to a lack of Palestinians. Yes, no side is innocent here, but the situation would be a lot worse if there were a different balance of power.
I understand not wanting to see the word genocide used lightly but your argument seems to boil down to
"it's not genocide because they're not done yet".
Surely that wasn't what you meant?
Because they didn't start yet. Israel could wipe out the Palestinians within weeks if they wanted to. But they haven't done that. Hence it's proven that there's no genocide going on. It's a good old case of "if I wanted you dead you'd be dead already".
So you do mean that a genocide has been happening when a people is wiped out? That’s not the definition, please look it up.
I did. Maybe you should read it as well. The definition crucial portion here is that you need an intend to exterminate out a people and take actions in that direction, typically murder. That's why you could actually argue that the Hamas is committing genocide. After all wiping out the Israelis is their goal.
But it's moronic to accuse someone of having the intend to do something after they had more than half a century opportunity to do so and didn't.