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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

Am I the only one suspicious about the timing of this attack? Right on the time Netanyahu is under extreme pressure at home a major war comes out of his ass.

Can't help but notice everybody loses with this war, except him. He's the only one that takes advantage of this situation. Not Israel, not Hamas and sure as hell not the Palestinians.

There's a stench here. Something is not right.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is this really a win for Netanyahu though? His intelligence branch really fucked up big time. Real winner is probably any far-right groups looking for an opportunity to spout even more nationalistic bullshit, causing even more violence.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I thought Netanyahu and Likud are the far right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

His intelligence branch really fucked up big time

I agree. Almost like it was on purpose.

Though his tough guy appearance suffered a setback all he has to do is make the enemy seem greater than he is. "I did the best I could but these Palestinians are treacherous animals, I was too lenient. No more mr. Nice guy".

Result, he has an excuse to go all-in against Palestine and all he has to do his bomb them back into the stone age (which he has the means to). He'll look even tougher and the cherry on top of the cake is he'll use this "war" to silence any and all opposition.

This is too much of a god send to Netanyahu to have been on accident.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is too much of a god send to Netanyahu to have been on accident.

The idea that someone benefiting from a catastrophe means they must be involved in it is insane. After 9/11, sales of "Only Time" by Enya went way up. The whole country was in a panic and wanted to listen to soothing music. Since Enya benefited from 9/11, by your logic, she must've been involved.

you: There’s a stench here. Something is not right.

also you: This is too much of a god send to Enya to have been on accident.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's funny how people went from "something doesn't feel right" to "Netanyahu was the mastermind" in less than a second.

Hamas did this of their own volition, I'm not questioning. I'm questioning though, how vulnerable Israel was to this attack and how Mossad never saw this coming.

[–] yata 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your attempts at distancing yourself from your own argument by claiming that you were "just asking questions" does come off a quite disingenous.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I'm sorry if you misinterpreted me. It would help if you read my argument without immediately making assumptions and jumping to your own conclusions.

I wrote exactly what I meant.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People question the timing of the attack and hint at larger conspiracies EVERY TIME there's a terrorist attack. They did it on 9/11. They did it on 7/11. They will always do this and it will always be stupid.

I dislike Netanyahu, but it is simply insane to think Netanyahu coordinated an attack of this scale with his good buddies Hamas. Please seek help.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

it is simply insane to think Netanyahu coordinated an attack of this scale with his good buddies Hamas

Yes it is. And you're the one who came up with that. I never said anything of the like.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

To be fair, Netanyahu is always under extreme pressure at home. He's a terrible statist and a horrible person.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, they have been pressured to do this. IDF and random settlement Jews have literally been harassing Muslims praying in Jerusalem. They have been seen pushing women while praying and stepping on people at least 5 days straight.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel and Syria were about to sign a peace treaty.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think you mean Israel and Saudi Arabia.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The one other winner is Iran, but ya, I did find it really strangely timed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I rolled my eyes as soon as I saw the headline.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also on the 50 year anniversary of another attack that happened on a Jewish holiday.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I hate to say this, but sukkot is a tactically advantageous time to attack. It’s celebrated by sleeping under temporary booths with sparse natural cover. If you want to attack, waiting until the people you want to attack are no longer protected by a roof makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Roofs only marginally help with the rockets. The bunkers in the buildings are where people go when the sirens go off. Shouldn't be much harder to get to them from your back yard / porch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

A lot of people are away from home though

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Maybe the plan was to keep on poking and hope for a reaction and then lunch a police action to show strength, and repeat. This is the playbook of Netanyahu after all no?

So it makes sense he would know how to best react to this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

And's he's not above killing Israelis to get his way. Just ask Sharon or Perez.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

loose = opposite of tight

lose = opposite of win

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Corrected

Auto correction is a thing. And so are people who don't speak English natively, though I do know the difference between loose and lose.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Uhhh did you not see they're already talking about forming a new unity government and ousting him after stabilizing the security situation? That's hardly a win for the president running on the phrase "I'm the only one strong enough to protect you!" Something similar happened after the yom Kippur attacks 50 years ago where the current president was basically squeezed out of the government once the situation wasn't so dire.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I hope you're right. But I'm afraid he'll know how to play hos cards. If he does, he'll be untouchable and democracy in Israel is doomed. And the Palestinians too, that goes without saying.