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A horde of trailer-park visigoths can sack the Capitol and Republicans say "what's the big deal?" But let one guy show up in casual clothes and they lose their goddamn minds.

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[–] [email protected] 133 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This is a losing issue for Republicans.

Do they think their base gives a shit about dress codes? Obviously not! But the fancy lads can't stand the thought of people not dressing correctly lol

[–] [email protected] 91 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their base will get offended over anything & everything so long as it's not one of their own being criticized. They are forever hypocrites, and generally dumber than a box of rocks.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Eh, the base will forget about this in a week if its not right in front of their faces on TV. It's just not something they actually care about.

Some issues ignite a fire in the base and sustain themselves, like racism and queerphobia, but dress codes ain't it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s the thing though. It will be in front of their faces on tv on Fox News and their radio shows will bring it up all the time. It’s a propaganda opportunity for them and they’re gonna capitalize on it.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago

Don't forget opportunity cost - by focusing on this nothingburger they're letting other opportunities slip past them.

Just going for the low hanging fruit all the time isn't a good strategy, is all I'm saying.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

Something something tan suit!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They don’t give a shit about dress code. They give a shit about having an excuse to be angry about something.

I guarantee if some GOPer showed up in a stained wifebeater with camo shorts and crocs, they would be celebrated as ‘just like us’ and ‘a hero of the people.’

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's my point!

Republicans should have been the ones to do this first, their base would have loved it and it would have pissed Democrats off because it violates the precious norms. But instead they missed their chance and now Democrats are eating their lunch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair, I don't think Gym Jordan owns a tie or blazer. I also really don't care. :)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can imagine an alternate universe where Republicans were the ones to do this, and you know in that universe Democrats on MSNBC would be up in arms about Republicans disrespecting the norms.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Their base does give a fuck though. Anything they can make into us vs them. Our team vs their team. And now it’s our team wears suits and theirs doesn’t! So fuck anyone without a suit because they are on the opposite team!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

My favorite genre of Republican: trying to dress like the common man while all the clothes don't have as much as a wrinkle.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is anyone here in a client facing job allowed to dress like this? This guy is on TVs and websites around the world dressed like he rolled out of bed and grabbed yesterday's shirt out of the laundry. Not on the weekend where he got called in for an emergency, but for a regular workday; one where he was scheduled to lead the all-day meeting he was in.

The vast majority of Americans have a dress code for work. It really isn't an issue when the boss shows up to work looking like a hobo to fix something on their day off, but if they dress like this every day its a slap in the face to all their employees with a dress code.

If this guys showed up rocking a turtleneck and jeans or a polo and khaki shorts and people lost their minds that would be one thing, but look at that picture again and tell fill me in on the latest version of whataboutism.

Nothing wrong with relaxing the dress code some, but this guy is a walking example of why most companies have them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

His constituents voted for him. He dressed exactly the same then as he is now. His constituents are his clients and they approve of this uniform. I sense it has something to do with the fact that it connects with them as it's genuine. Something that seems to be rather important to Senator Fetterman.

Perhaps we should rethink the literal centuries old understanding of what is or is not appropriate to wear in this setting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That is a very good point. A business certainly wouldn't send a salesperson in a three piece suit to try and pick up the business of construction workers if they were smart. Need someone who won't stick out like a sore thumb.

Though, I suppose if you think of the voters as the boss, and the other senators as the people being marketed to, then maybe a dressing to the nines to convince them might be the right move.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

everyone in a client facing job should be allowed to dress like this. the clothes are ARBITRARY

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

clothes are ARBITRARY

Total nonsense. Appearance is the true first impression we have of someone. This is a fundamental and common trait throughout mankind. We may not like how much emphasis is placed on personal appearance, but it doesn't change the reality.

This is just the first thing that popped up when I searched "appearance is the first impression" this is not a novel concept and definitely has some (if not definitive) research behind it. https://www.science20.com/news_articles/appearance_says_lot_when_making_first_impressions

I had never heard of Fetterman before I heard that Chuck Schumer changed the Senate rules for him. The first headline I saw said something like, "relaxes the senate dress code." I was like... why is this news and moved on. Then I saw post here with a picture attached and was like... wait what? At that point I stopped to look into the issue.

If Fetterman had looked presentable but not in a suit, I would have assumed this was more R v D drama to distract from important issues. That wasn't the case. He looked ridiculous.

If I saw someone dressed like this checking their mailbox on a Saturday morning, I would smirk to myself in acknowledgement that I had worn similar stuff to do the same. If, however, I walked into a law firm because I needed serious professional help, and this guy introduced himself as the person I was looking for, then I would either ask if it was his day off or thank him for his time and leave immediately. Someone who cannot be trusted to manage their own personal appearance, also cannot be trusted to manage a serious professional issue for me.

If he is just incapable of telling the difference between looking like a slob and a professional then he needs to have a spouse or a staff member help him out each day. Nothing wrong with someone knowing their limits and focusing on what they are good at.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm looking at that picture and I don't see anything that would cause a safety hazard nor anything offensive, so I don't give a shit and neither do the vast majority of people. He's not wearing anything that would negatively impact his job performance, it's fine.

Also, its the legislature. If there was a dress code, it should be red and blue jerseys with their donor's logos on them.