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Call them out on a lie that undermines either a core part of their case or that damages their credibility in the eyes of anyone else listening.
Your goal isn't really to convince them to stop doing anything but to completely destroy their credibility, which takes away their ability to use rhetoric to get what they want.
Addressing their motives works too.
You have to be very, very hard-nosed about it and be willing to wield that banhammer on sight, or, in the real world, be willing to exercise power to drive them away, but if you can or if you can convince someone else in the audience with that kind of power to do so, you'll usually be straight.
I do this shit all the time with dickheads here on Lemmy. You'd be surprised how effective calling them out on a lie is.
But hasn't this been done... all the time? Like with Trump?
Not the obvious ones. You need to reveal the lies that reveal their true intentions for it is uncovering their true intentions they do everything possible to avoid.
Like with the Trump Chumps, their end goal is genocide of anyone different than them but they know no one has actual hard evidence this is what they're trying to orchestrate. If anyone could trip them up in debate and trick them into admitting such, or uncover actual evidence and reveal it to the public, it would probably be enough of a driving force to convince the left to shake off the provocateurs and shills holding them back and to finally fight back with fists and bullets, even if only to collectively save themselves.
Granted, the people I do this to are kind of different than the Trump cult, many are on the left, so YMMV in terms of results, but I know from experience it does work.