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Not sure how many other parents there are here, but this has been ongoing for some months now with no end in sight. I actually wish there was more media coverage to raise awareness of the plight of our teachers.

Yes, it's frustrating to have our kids home while we're trying to work etc, and I worry about impact on their schooling (especially when 'normality' was starting to return post-COVID lockdowns) but I feel strongly that these teachers are absolutely getting the short end of the stick in the pay negotiations. Keep supporting them where you can, talk to your kids about the whys of what's going on and cross everything for a positive resolution soon!

My 2c anyway :-)

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There are two teacher unions. One union, which is for primary teachers, accepted an offer after strike action. The secondary school teacher's union rejected the offer and is thus continuing to strike.

It's not just about pay. Teachers are expected to do more each year with less, and with low wages. In-classroom, they have less help to deal with disruptive or high-needs students than they used to. Class sizes are larger, in class resources less due to lower funding, more admin, etc.

However pay is a big part. It is common for teachers to be working until 9 or 10 at night, and on weekends, with coursework prep, marking, and other administrative tasks. All of this is unpaid. And the teacher base is shrinking. Why is this happening do you think? Perhaps more pay and more help will encourage teachers to stay in teaching, instead of switching careers or jumping over the ditch.

This is important for all of us. The kids are suffering because the teachers are suffering. NZ educational outcomes will continue to fall if something isn't done, and this has nothing to do with the strikes themselves.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are two teacher unions. One union, which is for primary teachers, accepted an offer after strike action. The secondary school teacher’s union rejected the offer and is thus continuing to strike.

That makes sense, thank you. I know I'm very ignorant of the situation, and willingly admit so.

As I said I don't have kids (and willingly admit I don't like kids at all), so I tend to blow right by things like this. Kids have never been on my radar, so all I see are the headlines about it. Thank you for the explaination, I hasn't realized there was more than one teacher union.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All good, I just figured I could add some context.

I will say that kids' futures do affect all of us, even those who do not have kids. A big thing in the news (and politically) at the moment is the crime rate. Many studies show a strong correlation between reduced crime rates with increase education outcomes. See here for just one of many examples. IMHO we as a society should be invested in education and social support for children especially, even those who will never have kids of their own, as it helps improve society as a whole.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I do appreciate it mate. I do know they can affect all of us, especially if they aren't being educated properly. I fully agree education is extremely important for any society to succeed. Cheers

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So the other person already explained about there being two teachers unions. An anecdote from me, I congratulated my primary kids teachers for reaching an agreement and getting some extra money. They said it's nice, but they actually were more interested in getting more teacher's aides, as they felt that is what they need for better results for the kids, and to enjoy their jobs more.