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The controversial construction of the Dakota Access Pipeline (DAPL) gained national and international attention when the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers accepted an application filed by Energy Transfer Partners, a Texas-based developer behind the project.

The position of the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe is that the Dakota Access Pipeline violates Article II of the Fort Laramie Treaty, which guarantees the "undisturbed use and occupation" of reservation lands surrounding the proposed location of the pipeline. In 2015 the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe, operating as a sovereign nation , passed a resolution regarding the pipeline stating that "the Dakota Access Pipeline poses a serious risk to the very survival of our Tribe and ... would destroy valuable cultural resources."

To generate momentum for their cause and demonstrate their opposition to the pipeline, the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe organized runs, horseback rides, and marches. Many Native Nations, along with non-Native allies, celebrities, and several politicians supported the movement and travelled to join DAPL protesters at the Sacred Stone Camp on the Standing Rock Reservation. Conditions at the camp became intense. North Dakota law enforcement officials and private guards hired by Energy Transfer Partners clashed with protestors, sometimes violently, and made hundreds of arrests.

On September 3rd, 2016, the Dakota Access Pipeline company used bulldozers to dig up part of the pipeline route that contained possible Native graves and burial artifacts; the land was subject to a pending legal injunction.

Protesters stormed the land and were attacked by a private security firm, armed with attack dogs and pepper spray.

The battle over the Dakota Access Pipeline, explained vox

Standing Rock and the Dakota Access Pipeline: Native American Perspectives: Background: Historical and Current

Dakota Access Pipeline Company Attacks Native American Protesters with Dogs & Pepper Spray

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Like he was measurably more racist than his contemporaries as a Jim Crow governor, how does he still have shooters in left spaces.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where are you getting that from? AFAIK, that's not true. He was one of the few Jim Crow politiicans who left aside race baiting rhetoric, and he had the support of the black population of Louisiana. Huey Newton was named after him.

I'm not saying the guy was perfect or a great hero or anything- his association with Coughlin speaks for itself- but he was more complicated than you're saying.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

AFAIK, that's not true

You'd be wrong then. Like you'd be intensely, catastrophically wrong. He was literally, and I do mean literally, measurably worse in terms of segregation than surrounding southern states. His initial gubernatorial campaign uniquely amongst Louisiana politicians tried to both-sides the KKK. He refused to hire black people for any higher positions because then white people would have to use words like "Mister" to refer to them. The entire reason people think this nonsense is because all popular conception of the guy is derived from a single hagiographic biography written in like the 60s (70s? I forget when T. Harry Williams published his book)

The idea that he "Left aside race baiting rhetoric" is SPECIFICALLY a line from T. Harry Williams. And it is fucking nonsense, like even T. Harry Williams himself points out that Long said racist shit all the goddamn time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh okay, I guess the parents of the founder of the Black Panthers named their kid after a guy who was worse in terms of segregation than surrounding states for some weird reason.

His initial gubernatorial campaign uniquely amongst Louisiana politicians tried to both-sides the KKK. He refused to hire black people for any higher positions because then white people would have to use words like "Mister" to refer to them.

Sorry, but you can't make the claim that he was "He was literally, and I do mean literally, measurably worse in terms of segregation than surrounding southern states." and then support it with actions and words that literally any Jim Crow governor, and probably a fair number of non-southern governors, would have done in the 1930s.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh okay, I guess the parents of the founder of the Black Panthers named their kid after a guy who was worse in terms of segregation than surrounding states for some weird reason. I guess he won the blac

Yes. Because our understanding of a lot of things have changed in the intervening 70 years.

Sorry, but you can't make the claim that he was "He was literally, and I do mean literally, measurably worse in terms of segregation than surrounding southern states." and then support it with actions and words that literally any Jim Crow governor, and probably a fair number of non-southern governors, would have done in the 1930s.

HE RAN AGAINST PEOPLE WHO PUBLICLY CONDEMNED THE KKK. He refused to. He was literally the only guy who publicly did a centrism on the KKK. And I mean measurable, as in statistics. As in the lot of black people improved faster in surrounding states, as in social programs deliberately excluded blacks at a higher rate under his leadership than comparable programs elsewhere.

Fuck it. https://sci-hub.se/https://www.jstor.org/stable/4232958

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

HE RAN AGAINST PEOPLE WHO PUBLICLY CONDEMNED THE KKK.

Fuck it. https://sci-hub.se/https://www.jstor.org/stable/4232958

Okay, I haven't read that link yet, but why didn't you just lead with that when all I did was ask you some questions? Why do you have to YELL AT ME IN ALL CAPS

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are defending a segregationist by implying I am ignorant, and when confronted with examples of his racism with an explicit note that it was something he uniquely did you claimed it was just something everyone would do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I started by asking you

Where are you getting that from?

Literally the first thing I asked you because what you were saying contradicts what I've heard about Huey Long. Maybe I'm wrong about him, and I'm willing to amend my views if I am! You can't just expect everyone to come into the world with your same perfect level of understanding on every topic.