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On this day in 1945, Hồ Chí Minh announced the Proclamation of Independence of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam to a crowd of thousands at the Ba Đình flower garden (now Ba Đình Square).

The Proclamation led directly to war with France, which concluded in the country being divided between French and self-rule at the 17th parallel. Vietnam would not achieve a unified, independent rule until 1976.

The Proclamation quoted heavily from the American Declaration of Independence and was vehemently critical of French rule. An excerpt reads:

"'All men are created equal. They are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, among them are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.' This immortal statement was made in the Declaration of Independence of the United States of America in 1776. In a broader sense, this means: All the peoples on the earth are equal from birth, all the peoples have a right to live, to be happy and free.

...Nevertheless, for more than eighty years, the French imperialists, abusing the standard of Liberty, Equality, and Fraternity, have violated our Fatherland and oppressed our fellow-citizens. They have acted contrary to the ideals of humanity and justice. In the field of politics, they have deprived our people of every democratic liberty...They have built more prisons than schools. They have mercilessly slain our patriots; they have drowned our uprisings in rivers of blood...They have robbed us of our rice fields, our mines, our forests, and our raw materials.

For these reasons, we, members of the Provisional Government of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, solemnly declare to the world that Vietnam has the right to be a free and independent country - and in fact is so already. The entire Vietnamese people are determined to mobilize all their physical and mental strength, to sacrifice their lives and property in order to safeguard their independence and liberty."

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hell yeah comrade.

Skyhooks, a little slazer as a treat, central planning on the scale of centuries this is my shit.

Don't fuck with Europa though (At least not without many decades of surveys confirming beyond all doubt there's nothing living in that ocean), take the ice from the belt instead.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

World Socialism can get shit fucking done.

You can terraform venus without and crazy insane shit like you need for any other planet. And it can be done all the way up to the plant growth stage in 80-120 years. By that time I expect 120 years to be the human lifespan, so many would see its beginning and completion. It would be an achievement 2nd to a dyson swarm or ftl drive. This is not if earth devoted all of their solar efforts to this project. Stripping the co2 ice would be a matter of one or two five year plans (IN SPACE).

Slazers are good if you want shit melted fast, and it can burn off an atmosphere if you build a big enough one. They're also just so wacky I love them. There is a way I've seen that just peels off hydrogen from the sun itself and directs it at the planet. Far bigger, far harder to make, but it could peel off that atmosphere in a few years.

But I really like the idea of keeping the co2 ice, you never know when you need it. So sadly, I could not make them the main focus. Although I see them being very useful in some areas you want to speed up melting.

Maybe any leftover capitalists you can leave planet side, and then they have to watch a wrath of basically biblical proportion, the of the wrath of the sun itself, descend from the heavens to destroy them.

I was thinking similarly, since there are a lot of small moons of ice just floating around there, but I wanted to give a surefire option. We know for sure europa has a fuckton of ice, and we know we can use jupiter's gravity to shoot it. Although to see if theres life, they're going to need some ice removed anyway. We could also take almost 1/4th of the ice of the planet without really effecting the lower layers. Thats still contents equal to half our ocean. I see what you mean though, lets take more from the belts instead. Less pressure on a celestial object we've had for centuries would be nice of course, especially ones we have observed for a few hundred years.

Also I forgot to mention, the little co2 moon is moved by further collisions. Plan out an orbit path you'd want to speed up rotation and tilt, and start sending shit along that path to hit together into a moon. Any further adjustments? Divert some co2 ice to build up a mini moon or large asteroid that will accelerate and hit the big moon into alignment.

thank you for reading!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love skyhooks, they're like space elevators but we could build them with materials that actually exist.

Maybe any leftover capitalists you can leave planet side, and then they have to watch a wrath of basically biblical proportion, the of the wrath of the sun itself, descend from the heavens to destroy them.

Now that's a solution to NIMBYs I can approve of.

I don't really expect to find life in Europa, but it's less unlikely than any other non-Earth place in the solar system. Also, why lift ice out of a gravity well when you can just throw the stuff that's already floating?

Carbon and Oxygen are both really handy and once you're throwing slazers and dyson swarms around liberating them is no longer really an energy concern so I agree with keeping the CO2 moon around.

Drilling through kilometers of ice is something we should develop anyway in the near term to help try and slow down Antarctica's slide into the sea.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also new Idea, We could easily develop the plants and animals beforehand through experimentation in some early cylinder habitats. Pretty simple to build, uh actually insane space stations that can internally have a space the size of new york city AT LEAST. They take a lot of resources but are insanely useful, as if you basically picked up a chunk of earth people could live in, used for farming, or my current use: ecosystem modeling. They could be used to model the gravity, atmosphere, and sunlight exposure on our post-thaw Venus. It would take a lot of transportation of raw soil, nitrogen, and water just to build the internal habitat, but it would be worth it. With resources from earth, you could gene edit existing plant and animal dna, creating creatures and organisms to survive in this cylinder. This space, you probably just need a single one, could be used for all ecosystem modeling for venus in the future. Then once the conditions of the green phase arrive, you have really good candidates for starting up an environment.

I love space

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Once you start building Sides, the need to terraform planets at all goes down drastically. The matter efficiency of space habitats is far greater than that of planets, actually.

The Culture perspective that terraforming itself is ecologically unsound does hold some appeal to me, but it is much more of a Fucking Magic than an Actual Machines kind of setting.