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Seriously though, the USA is virtually always bad.

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 year ago (276 children)

Name me a time when the US was intentionally and objectively good and don't include times it was repairing damage it did. I'll wait. Forever.

[–] adriaan 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

That's a bit disingenuine. If your only stance is "USA bad" you would side with the Axis in WWII, the motivation for the USA joining the Allies is irrelevant in that outcome. Sadly you have to actually think about geopolitics sometimes because they're really fucking complicated. You'll find that almost all nations are straight up bad and that the big distinguishing factor about the USA is not how bad it is, but about how much bad it's able to project globally as a hegemon.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago

It's telling your that your last example of "USA Good" was 80 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

USSR vs Germany was the main show of WW2. US dragged it's fear and only opened a second front when it was apparent that the Soviet Union had won the war.

So maybe USA bad, communism good gets you to 100%?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure being against the US would be pro-soviet as the real conflict there was calling dibs on central Europe by the time the US joined the war.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Not really. Nazi Germany invaded the Soviet Union before Pearl Harbor. The Soviet Union also had skirmishes with Fascist Japan and IJA warcrimes like the Rape of Nanjing already happened. It was pretty obvious which side was good. If anything, it shows the absolute moral bankruptcy of the US that chose to sit on the sidelines while their imperialist rivals killed and bombed each other, hoping to recreate WWI where the US became the first among equals because it was virtually unscathed by WWI. The real anti-US side would be to pick the nonfascist side during the 1930s when the fascists were invading Republican Spain and the Republic of China and not be "isolationist."

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