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It's pretty funny that the expectation on any man who picks up a guitar these days is not that he has a decent voice to go with, it's that his political ideology is "correct" and cohesive and that he makes sure to convey the entire thing in a 4 minute song.
The people getting their knickers in twist over this song are lost.
No one would give a shit if he wasn't doing racist dogwhistles
Why is it always race? I understand the welfare queen myth, but nothing about that song made me reflect on skin color.
Maybe it's just you.
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Valid point. Hadn't considered that. Really stirred some self reflection in me and casual readers of this thread. Bravo.
How about replying to this: https://hexbear.net/comment/3787472
The "welfare queen" myth was always a racist dogwhistle from the jump. This is well documented. The "you're the real racist for noticing racism" bullshit isnt going to fly here.
so since liberals seem unable to hear dogwhistles
the 1935 social security act excluded industries which relied heavily on Black labor. 65% of the Black workforce was excluded from the initial Social Security program (and only 27% of white workers)
during the Great Migration, Black people began moving north and into urban centers, and started accessing welfare in higher numbers, which results in increasing hostility towards welfare programs
in the 60s, the welfare movement also begins to become associated with civil rights, with a Black, urban face of poverty, rather than the white, Appalachian face of poverty that was more common previously. This further adds to the growing backlash against welfare programs.
https://www.newamerica.org/weekly/rise-and-reign-welfare-queen/
Most Americans see Black people as the face of the welfare system. Black people and undocumented immigrants are generally considered to be the largest welfare recipients. This is not true.
white people are less likely to support welfare when told that Black people might benefit from them
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/6/13/17460362/race-food-stamps-snap-farm-bill-2018-republicans-welfare
https://www.vox.com/2018/6/7/17426968/white-racism-welfare-cuts-snap-food-stamps
https://jacobin.com/2016/10/clinton-welfare-reform-prwora-tanf-lillie-harden
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/why-it-matters-that-hillary-clinton-championed-welfare-reform/
https://www.theroot.com/when-states-run-welfare-black-children-are-the-ones-wh-1790854181
So, opposition to welfare is rooted in a history of racism. Most Americans, when they get upset about welfare recipients, are picturing an urban Black person. And welfare reform has historically been used to take benefits away from Black people. You might not think you're talking about race when you complain about welfare recipients or talk about welfare reform, but you can bet your ass most people in this country are. To complain about welfare recipients and talk about welfare reform (unless you're talking about expanding welfare) is to talk about race, even if you really are so innocent as to believe that you're not. For this reason we are talking about the song having "dogwhistles."
it's the US, it's safe to assume a thing about it is racist without even checking, because the US rests on a foundation of racism and it has seeped into every aspect of it.
but this one's racist even if you do research it.
“Why don’t people want to listen to my racist song?”
Also the song sucks
Number 1 on Apple Music US and Global top 100 charts, but yeah - your opinion is the correct one, it's everyone else that is wrong.
Ah yes, the Apple Music top 100 charts, the objective decider of quality, how could I ever think to go against such a list
Exploitative gacha trash on phones are objectively the best made games in the world because they make the most money.
mcdonald's has the best food and coca cola is the best drink and NFL Sunday Night Football is the greatest TV show ever made.
I think racism is wrong. Don't you?
Sure. Exactly which part of "Rich men North of Richmond" did you find racist?
They’re dogwhistles. The parts about “the obese milkin welfare” and “taxes not ought to pay for your bags of fudge rounds.” Literally just Reagan era welfare queen rhetoric. If you don’t recognize those as racist dogwhistles you’ve been living under a rock for at least 40 years.
But even if you don’t see the dogwhistles I hope you can understand how the song is punching down on poor people
It's punching down on fat, lazy people, and I'm ok with that.
Oh so you're a chud!
Hahahaha so then don’t act like you don’t understand how it’s racist. The racism is what you like about it!
Are you saying that only people of colour can be fat and lazy? That's fucked up.
"Are you saying only Hispanics can be immigrants who eat beans? Sounds like you're the real racist"
Lol…absolutely amazing. “He didn’t literally say he hates Black people so how could it be racist?”
Do you understand what a dogwhistle is? And I now see the Isle of Man flag so maybe you’re not American, and I don’t know how common this sort of thing is in other countries-but this is literally just Reagan era welfare queen rhetoric. It’s an extremely common stereotype that depicts Black women as lazy non-contributing members of society that rely on public welfare and the tax money of “real hardworking [white] Americans” to support themselves.
Go anywhere in the USA in the past 40 years and bring up welfare and you will undoubtedly get people who buy into this stereotype. Hell there are people in this thread who still buy into this. And yeah of course they aren’t explicitly racist because that’s looked down upon these days, but that’s always the subtext, that was the subtext 40 years ago and that’s the subtext today: “Why should I, a white person, have any of my money go to any Black person.”
Unlike you, with dad's boat dealership and the hard work you've done minding your manners and doing chores so you get the boat dealership someday!
He's literally singing about being part of a downtrodden underclass, but you and your juvenile half-formed political ideology make it all seem so simple. White skin = oppressor, right?
He's literally stealing valor to pander to poor people, and a specific subset given the "welfare queen" rhetoric.
He’s not part of any downtrodden underclass, and he’s singing extremely basic and uncreative lyrics that make gestures towards working class issues while barely touching on any of those issues, all the while making sure to punch down on the “wrong” poor people. It’s petit bourgeois attitudes wrapped in redneck aesthetics made for comfortable middle class folk who feel “downtrodden” because taxes exist, welfare exists, and there are people who are richer than them. There is no solidarity with the actual working class. There are only aesthetic gestures made towards the working class so these middle class folk can delude themselves into believing they’re the salt of the earth and the backbone of the USA.
Hey chud, meet the other white meat
Is hexbear just a 4chan psyop to make the extreme left look insane?
Why are these people so extreme?! All i did was expose my rascism. Can't a white man just talk about hating people and be respected as superior to those he hates anymore!
TIL calling out racism is “insane”
Post hog liberal
You apparently believe anyone who disagrees with you is mentally ill which by your presented context means they are loathsome and deserving of hatred because you don't like them and like to call people you don't like insane.
In other words, you're an ableist hateful piece of shit. Get flushed.
Libs and wearing bigotry like a badge of honor, name a more iconic duo
So you admit that kpop is fantastic music then, since kpop is wildly internationally successful.
I will enjoy your removed by mod posts very much.
This isn't Reddit and saying "it's funny" doesn't hide your rage against people that weren't born as comfortable as you were.
I don't think that's what this is about. I don't have that kind of expectation of musicians. But if a musician chooses to sing about being a chud i think they should get dunked on
What is a chud?
Sorry, I'm used to people familiar with our lingo. But, a guy who's angry about "welfare queens" is a pretty good example. Fascists, conservatives, rascists, xenophobes, right-wingers, homophobes,
etc. are chuds. If any comrades have a better definition I'll defer to that, but this is how I'd describe it off the top of my head
Catch all term for proudly ignorant right wingers
Dude, no one is above getting mocked. Stop it with the butthurt lol
His political ideology is 100% the point of the song. It's the only thing he's singing about.
You're acting like he did an instrumental song and people ridiculed him for past behavior instead. No. He's complaining that poor fat people eating government fudge is ruining his life lol. He's a fucking moron.