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AI Is Starting to Look Like the Dot Com Bubble (futurism.com)
submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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As the AI market continues to balloon, experts are warning that its VC-driven rise is eerily similar to that of the dot com bubble.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course. Sure, AI image generated stuff are impressive but no way those companies could cover the operational, R&D cost if VC were not injecting shit load of fake money.]

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah early this year, I was crunching the numbers on even a simple client to interface with LLM APIs. It never made sense, the monthly cost I would have to charge vs others using it to at least feel financially safe, never felt like a viable business model or real value add. That's not even including Generative Art, which would definitely be much more. So, don't even know how any of these companies charging <$10/mo are profitable.

[–] ramblinguy 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Generative art is actually much easier to run than LLMs. You can get really high resolutions on SDXL (1024x1024) using only 8gb of Vram (although it'd be slow). There's no way you can get anything but the smallest of text generative models into that same amount of VRAM.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh wow, that's good to know. I always attributed visual graphics to be way more intensive. Wouldn't think a text generative model to take up that much Vram

Edit: how many parameters did you test with?

[–] ramblinguy 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry, just seeing this now- I think with 24gb of vram, the most you can get is a 4bit quantized 30b model, and even then, I think you'd have to limit it to 2-3k of context. Here's a chart for size comparisons: https://postimg.cc/4mxcM3kX

By comparison, with 24gb of vram, I only use half of that to create a batch of 8 768x576 photos. I also sub to mage.space, and I'm pretty sure they're able to handle all of their volume on an A100 and A10G