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[–] CookieJarObserver 52 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is a shitshow, probably illegal and the "10" years smoke detectors never last more than 6, like i know a German Youtuber did some magic math and testing, the 10 years is even under laboratory conditions basically impossible, in the real world the thing may go off once or twice, and are tested if they work, already taking out at least 1 year of time...

I fucking want my 9V powered smoke detectors back.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But how would they sell more smoke detectors that way?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

They can sell more smoke detectors in HELLLLL

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Doesn't the isotope in the detection chamber degrade and needs to be replaced in 10 years anyway?

https://www.epa.gov/radtown/americium-ionization-smoke-detectors

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

most smoke detectors nowadays are optical.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Both kinds exist. Both have different benefits and drawbacks.

You shouldn't only be using one type in your house.

Optical is great for detecting large smoke particles quickly. If the smoke is small particles, though, it'll need to be rather dense before it'll go off. Ionizing detectors have the opposite issue; they react quickly to small particles but can't detect large particles that well.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No the sensitivity of radiation based smoke alarms tends to cause false positives which in turn causes people to ignore them making them less effective. Optical smoke detectors are overall the newer and better technology.

That being said radiation based smoke detection is still a cool concept. There might be a few areas where they perform better still, though probably not.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

https://www.nfpa.org/Public-Education/Staying-safe/Safety-equipment/Smoke-alarms/Ionization-vs-photoelectric

For best protection, it is recommended both (ionization and photoelectric) technologies be used in homes. In addition to individual ionization and photoelectric alarms, combination alarms that include both technologies in a single device are available.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The half life of americium 241 is 432.2 years, so no

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Those detectors are inferior to optic detectors and should not be used any more.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The smoke detectors in my house are hooked up to the main power, but they still take a battery and beep when the battery is dead. I thought the battery was backup, but they die after about 2 years, so it can't be backup, it must be used for something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even the 9V ones didn't last forever.

I found that out one very exciting morning, when it decided to sing me the song of its people. If you've never stumbled down the stairs at 4am looking for a fire with your bollocks flapping about, I heartily recommend it.

[–] CookieJarObserver 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No of course not, but you didn't need a completely new smoke alarm when the battery is empty.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The battery was fine. It was the alarm that had degraded to the point that it always "detected" smoke.

Turns out smoke alarms should be replaced every 10 years or so.