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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (21 children)

Democracy is always superior to authoritarianism, long term. Regulated capitalism is always superior to state owned and directed business.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

"Democracies" have delivered a constant train of 'once in a lifetime' recessions that China's regulated capitalism has somehow managed to avoid.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, they haven't. China got hit just as hard in the 2008 recession as most western countries, and they've been robbing Peter to pay Paul ever since. Eventually Peter gets his due, and China will suffer a serious economic setback. You're starting to see signs of that now. China right now is Japan in the early 1990s. Everything from the inverted population pyramid to the looming debt crisis points to the next decade being very flat for China, and their wolf warrior diplomacy hasn't made them the kind of friends that could help pull them out of it.

That's not to say that western capitalist markets couldn't stand to be significantly more regulated, because they absolutely desperately need more regulation around safety, negative externalities, and anticompetitive behavior. But claiming that China hasn't experienced recession is preposterous. They're too economically coupled with western economies to not suffer alike as recessions hit.

[–] emergencyfood 9 points 1 year ago

After the 2008 financial crisis, the Chinese government and state-owned banks pumped something like a trillion dollars into the economy, cushioning the impact of the recession. That was one thing they actually got right.

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