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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/25042034

This post is "FYI only" for blahaj lemmy members. It is not a debate, and is not intended for non blahaj lemmy users to weigh in and offer opinions.

I recently received reports of a feddit.uk user espousing transphobia. Specifically, this was a feddit.uk user refusing to use the word cis, repeating the "adult human female" dog whistle, and claiming that trans women are not women. I approached a member of the feddit.uk admin team and raised my concerns and sought clarification of their stance on posts like this, where the transphobia is mostly dogwhistles, and "civil disagreement" on the validity of trans folk.

I was told by the feddit.uk admin that their preferred response is this kind of transphobia is to "sort it out through discussion and voting". However, the comments in question are currently more upvoted than downvoted, and little "sorting out" has occurred. The posts remain in place.

At this point, the admin stopped responding to my messages despite being active elsewhere on lemmy. When it became clear they were ignoring my messages and had no intention of removing the posts in question, I made the decision to defederate the instance.

I know some folk agree with the feddit.uk admins approach of pushback through discussion and voting, but this instance is not designed to be that kind of space. Blahaj lemmy is meant to be a place where we can avoid the rampant transphobia universally visible on nearly every other social media platform, and where we can exist without needing to debate our right to do so.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

@[email protected] and @[email protected] , would it be possible to address the transphobic posts/comments?

[โ€“] [email protected] 40 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

Address the comments or address the defederation?

I was the Admin who was contacted by Ada and that is a mischaracterisation of what I said. Our rules still stand that we won't allow transphobia.

Unfortunately, as the ruling on the interpretation of the law has recently changed, we are going to have to figure out how we approach this and that is going to require a consensus amongst the Admins, and an agreement on our wording going forward.

This is going to take a bit for us to work out (although not too long, we're getting there, I have been active on Lemmy but I don't call the shots, and we need input from all Admins) and if, in the meantime, LBZ feel we aren't moving fast enough and they need to defederate from us then that is obviously their right.

[โ€“] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

We can hold ourselves to a higher standard though?

Just because the government have become a bunch of pricks, doesn't mean that we have to. However without context, or being in control I have no idea what is expected here.

If a user of server A posts on a comment on server B, doesn't the admin on server B remove the comment, or is the request "your user, you admin them"?

What is being expected of you here?

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The issue is this rule in c/unitedkingdom and c/uk_politics:

Disappointing comments will generally be left to fester in ratio, outright horrible comments will be removed.

We've never had anything like the current wave of transphobia, not even those pogroms back in July, so we've never had to work out the exact line between 'disappointing' and 'horrible'. Working out that line needs discussion with all the admins, which unfortunately takes time.

Regardless of what the government says or does, transphobia is not and will never be allowed here.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

Those are community rules, and community rules are always subservient to instance rules.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I would be fine if the instance took a blanket policy of

  • No racism
  • No sexism
  • No homophobia

As long as we could also flag to remove all those unconstructive comments where folks from Blahaj who come in and blanket slag off the population of the UK for the actions of a few.

None of the parties that got meaningful votes ran with any anti-trans policies, they were all very much pro, it's mostly come from a small group of American funded activists.

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