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[โ€“] [email protected] 73 points 1 day ago (8 children)

We should stop calling it "the west" then.
It's always been a ridiculous name for a group that includes Australia, Europe, and USA.
We should think of a new name...

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago (2 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

What is this, 2010?

[โ€“] Gloria 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 12 hours ago
[โ€“] [email protected] -2 points 22 hours ago

Kingdom of the billionaires.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago
[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 25 minutes ago

Because if ya ain't white, you can't be free!

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

the Imperial Core is already a more descriptive name, methinks

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

The "other side" is imperial too. That doesn't make sense.

The entire thing is just imperial powers battling and using everything in-between as pawns.

Do you think Russia, China and Saudi Arabia aren't doing the same thing to places?

[โ€“] [email protected] -4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

No need for whataboutism when discussing the imperial tendencies and supremacy in the west.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

not a whataboutism

imagine if we named the West, the guys with guns. The other guys have guns too so it's not a great name. That's not a whataboutism lol

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess "NATO and friends" might be a bit shortsighted?

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 21 hours ago

NATO and Friends sounds like some Paw Patrol type cartoon.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's also Canada, NZ, South America, a lot of Africa and Asia

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No country in South America, Africa or Asia is part of "the west".
I admit I forgot Canada and New Zealand, as is tradition.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

The point was to stop using the term the west, because there's a lot more

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Japan and South Korea aren't in Asia? I'd certainly count them as "western", especially Japan. if I'm feeling especially generous I might provisionally include Brazil too.

[โ€“] [email protected] -5 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I wouldn't. You're mistaking countries under the thumb of the West as being the West

WWII and Korea are how those countries came about their position today. I don't think they're entirely against their position but they don't have a seat at the table like the others do

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Japan's the third largest economy in the world and they aligned themselves with the West in the Meiji restoration. they sought imperial conquest of their neighbors in the 1900s. what more do you want for them to be the West

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Not willingly. This is a core tenet of meoliberalism.

Japan has blurred porn because of the US. Any laws Japan has made that US citizens have to follow? Nope. How many Japanese military bases exist in America. 0.

They do not have an equal seat at the table.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

They have has as much of a seat as warrants their size and economic power, perhaps even more because of their location as a buffer against China. Most EU countries have pull only because they are part of the EU. Compare Spain and Japan on the world stage, for example.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I understand what you're saying but how many Japanese military bases exist on US soil?

It's not an equal seat

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I don't think that's a reasonable metric. Germany and the UK wouldn't be considered influential either, and yet they are.