this post was submitted on 24 Feb 2025
168 points (93.8% liked)

Technology

63313 readers
4221 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each other!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
  10. Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The money in AI is going to be the wages of the people it replaces. Those tech billionaires call it a revolution because getting labor without wages is the promised land for cunt billionaires.

The AI revolution is here because that's what the owners want. If you think they'll wait until the AI is as good as humans to replace humans I'll point out that self-checkout already exists.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Thing is, it doesn't replace workers. And it won't for the foreseeable future. Even Microsoft itself had to admit that their studies show AI assisted coding to be bad and making developers worse.

There is hardly any market where these systems can reasonably compete with exploited humans. It's just that the tech bros have nothing left to invest in. The same idiots that pushed crypto, NFTs and the Metaverse are now pushing for AI. There is hardly any innovation anymore, so the only ways to make line go up are rent seeking and investing in bubbles in the desperate attempt, that something might stick.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It seems like we have a problem where there's too much money at the top of society that's trying to chase returns that can't exist because there's enough money at the bottom to buy products, so it just gets invested in bad ways. This will probably continue until they waste enough for their own money on bullshit that they no longer have it

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

You're right in your analysis, but the prediction is wrong, I'm afraid.

The next "big thing" is taking over the government. See Musk and his gang. He's not alone and the US isn't the only country this is happening in. Corporations inject themselves into each and every transaction, every aspect of life and politics. That way they have essentially infinite money at their hands.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Eventually the only way rich people can get richer is by stealing from other rich people because the economy is so heavily weighted toward the rich that there's just no money to extract from the poor. I think that's related to what we're seeing here .. And probably everywhere else as well.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not actually to discredit you, but I really would love to send some studies to some people I work; by any chance do you have the links to Microsoft studies

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technology/ai-deteriorates-your-brain-according-to-microsoft-study/ar-AA1yQnGA

Searching for AI and Microsoft is an absolute shit show, btw. There was also a study about the code quality, but I can't find it among all the marketing bullshit.

Edit: just found another one https://futurism.com/openai-researchers-coding-fail

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Translators and junior level devs.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Translation on a level an AI could do is already pretty cheap, nobody's gonna throw a nuanced legal document at an AI and rely on it.

Junior devs are much smarter than any current AI, because they know what they want to achieve and why. There's a reason why all the demos are toy examples. Actual code is messy and full of quirks because of weird requirements.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My case in point. Instead of farming out translation jobs for 12 languages in WPML to people, we now auto translate all content via AI. That’s jobs lost. Complicated legal docs is an edge case in the content world.

Cursor is agent mode with Claude 3.7 absolutely writes well enough after indexing our codebase to mean less junior devs. I’m sorry that doesn’t fit into your narrative.

That’s not to say the world isn’t full of AI slop, and there aren’t huge issues around LLMs, But there are some solid use cases for this technology in replacing meat bags.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I tried cursor, claude, copilot. They're not good.

Like, they can sometimes generate 10 lines of perfectly reasonable code, but they constantly completely misunderstand my intention or simply produce garbage. But the garbage looks just good enough, that you actually have to read and understand it, which slows me down.

Maybe we're operating in completely different worlds, but even for the junior devs in my company, typing speed was never an issue. I'm sure, within a few years LLMs can generate much better code, but I don't see widespread unemployment. They need way too much babysitting and result in worse code.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Junior devs are much smarter than any current AI, because they know what they want to achieve and why

Oh sweet summer child

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

See, acting like a condescending asshole without any substance is a task that AI may never take from us.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Are you a junior developer by any chance?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's exactly what I mean. Condescending, arrogant, and confidently incorrect.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Oh my. You completely missed the point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, I fully understand your point, I just think it's shit, and since your first reaction to being challenged is a shitty attempt at belittling, I have to assume you're about as valuable as your point.

Why would I trust the judgement of someone who can't even fathom the concept of "someone else might have a valid point"?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You sound more and more immature, so likelihood of you being a junior (and not a good one) is increasing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I see. We're at full blown ad hominem and removed even the pretense of argumentative value.

That's of course a sure sign of maturity.

Maybe all the juniors around you suck, because the good ones don't need to waste their time with arrogant, abrasive coworkers.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

The big problem here is that it's simply not reliable enough to replace a worker because you have to have the AI running unsupervised to actually replace anyone and it can't be done with the current technology and something that can actually replace workers is not coming in the next 5 years or so and I'm being generous.