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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

My heart belongs to Bernie.

The left really should actually organize and form a secret party of political actors who run as republicans to disrupt the vote.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They should just run fake centrists in the Democratic Party and then turn all progressive when they get into office.

Like centrists did with the fake progressives Fetterman and Sinema.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Let’s do both! Sneak attack

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

If we're very lucky, we can get it so it's a stealth progressive against a stealth progressive.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

How does that make any sense compared to moderates going to the Republican party?

Like, the current Dems are "progressives" who want what every other 1st world country got decades ago, and "moderates" who want what Republicans wanted decades ago...

Why are the "moderates" trying to moderate the Dem party instead of the one that's so far from center they're openly fascist?

If they had stayed where they were in the 80s, then the furthest right we'd have been in 2024 was Kamala

Do you understand how ridiculous it is to say everyone to the left of them should go R?

Absolutely best case scenario we end up with two modern Dem parties and that fixes nothing.

But if the moderates go to the Republican party?

They'd get what they want, they can be pro-fracking. They can be for genocide, they can be for politicians using insider knowledge to make millions off the stock market, they can be for the end of political donations regulations.

And have total party unity on all those topics, while moderating the Republicans so they run McCains instead of trumps.

But that's hard.

And moderates have never been fighters.

The only way they'll go moderate Republicans, is if Dems kick them the fuck out of running the party.

They did it in 08, they'll do it again if we get a progressive to the general. It's not a problem either because we'll gain waaaaay more votes than we lose.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago

They would last MAYBE one term before they were instantly primaried and removed from power.

The reason manchin and sinema are so destructive is that they were from INCREDIBLY purple states. Going up against them would just split the vote and guarantee the republican candidate one. fetterman is more of a special case and time will tell on him.

The other? To get elected as a magat you need to be a pretty hateful son of a bitch. And people are already turning on AOC for removing her pronouns from her social media bio.

Because... just look at the Bernie Bros. Democrats are INCREDIBLY good at purity testing each other. So someone who pretended they wanted to enslave women and then voted for progressive legislature? They would be forever tainted and vilified... and kind of rightfully so.