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No. Just no.
The Democrats did not fail us. WE DID. We failed. The threat of Trump 2.0 was apparent to all. If that's not enough motivation to at least show the hell up to vote and kick the can down the road on better things, then nothing is. Every democratic voter who stayed home or voted 3rd party was derelict in their civic duty to prevent something worse.
Can the people, by definition, fail? What happened to the "will of the people" and democracy that Americans go on about?
If this is what won, this is obviously what the American people wanted/chose.
The only way to "fail" democracy is to not participate. So yeah, people can fail.
If that was the case, you'd have mandatory voting like Australia.
We should have mandatory voting like Australia. But our country is full of contrarians who's mantra is apparently "I don't want to, and you can't make me". Election Day isn't even a holiday (making it such would at least be a freaking step in the right direction).
And neither of those things happened because the Republicans knew they'd never win if they did.
And because the Dems know that if the Republicans became less of a threat, they'd have to start listening to their voters more than their owner donors to get elected.
You're not wrong. Democrats have had several opportunities to codify these things into laws.
If we don't hold then accountable, they will never change.
The campaign was weak, they waited too long to switch off Biden, they kept the genocide going and didn't offer any hope.
People that didn't vote suck but there's enough blame to go around. We can have an honest discussion on how fucked the dems keep acting now that's it over.
There's a difference between not disparaging them before the election and not enabling their behavior after it.
No. I'm not going to blame the fire department for not putting out the fire because they didn't tap dance to my satisfaction.
We all saw there was a fire, but too many people still asked the people who would put it out (or at least not make it worse) to dance.
Literally doing their jobs ≠ "tap dancing for your satisfaction"
It's amazing how you apparatchiks keep shifting the burden of responsibility from the ones failing to do their job of governing and campaigning according to the will of the people to the people for failing to reward them for their failure.
The fire has been burning worse and worse since 1980 at the latest and, far from putting it out, Dem leadership has maintained it and sometimes stoked it.
What you're asking for isn't democracy, it's serfdom.
You think not aiding genocide in Gaza and not implementing trump-tier border policy and giving a shit about queer people is comparable to a fun dance that isn't necessary, and think people who want those things are being unreasonable trump supporters. Thanks for telling me your exact ethnicity, income bracket, sex and gender (or at least telling me you have zero empathy for marginalized people)
I feel like they did the equivalent of watching it burn, as the fire department. Gaza was a fire they could have put out, they let it burn. They were making headway on climate change and then promoted fracking at the debate. Biden was clearly going to be a problem but they just let it burn until it was a mess.
We have to be vocal. People want change. We can't have another election where the dems run on "at least we aren't pouring gasoline on it like the GOP".
They don't need pity, their feelings don't have to be protected. We can be harsh with them.
That's the part the DNC doesn't get. Every single successful campaign since 2000 has run on a change and reform platform. This time they ran with "we'll continue business as usual" and it's absolutely no surprise they were crushed.
(Edit. Seriously, listen to Kamala on The View when asked what she'd do differently to improve the economy. Her response was that they're very proud of Bidenomics and nothing would fundamentally change.)
Voters want reform so that 95% of the profit from the economy doesn't go to Wall St. Voters want public spending on things that make everyone's daily lives better. Better roads, more reliable electrical grids, bridges that aren't falling apart, downtowns with actual businesses that aren't corporate franchises, houses that they can afford. Reboot the CCC and offer jobs building those things, offer jobs that pay enough for people to move out of their parent's houses and start their own lives, offer to crack down on corporate profiteering, offer labor something other than "we're less bad than the Republicans are." Offer to bootstrap small and medium businesses, talk about kick-starting American manufacturing, talk about the jobs you'll create and the spending you'll do making lives better for everyone rather than just the corporate profiteers.
We already know that neoliberalism works for Wall St, voters are waiting to hear about what works for them too. Make that the core of your campaign if you want to win the popularity contest.
Oh, they get it. The DNC exists to prevent meaningful change and reform from actually happening.
There were a lot of fires to put out and this fire department chose the ones that would benefit them and lectured those abandoned in burning buildings about how their building aren't burning and then campaigned arm in arm with a bunch of arsonists.
Yeah, their opponent was an arsonist so it wasn't the best strategy to sit this one out but there is a lot of blame to go around.
America needs to fix it's shit. I'm just hoping the arsonists don't burn it to the ground first.
Saw a recent article that surveyed 1,000 voters. Only six of them mentioned Gaza as an issue of concern to them.
Gaza is a footnote. Stop making it your identity.
Liberals try actually listening to their constituents rather than blaming minorities for trump challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
Listen to what? Non voters didn't say anything with their sitting home other than you can't count on them even with fascism knocking on the door.
Quite the message.
Kamala was not selected in any kind of primary, she was forced onto us when Joe Bidens stupid ass decided to run for reelection when he's already got one foot in the grave and inevitably had to back down.
Do I really have to explain to you that primaries exist for a reason? Are we gonna sit here and debate on whether primaries are important for a healthy election? Am I gonna have to explain that to you sir? She lost the popular vote by FIVE FUCKING MILLION MAN!!!!!!!!!!
Really, are we going to play that game for the next 4 years? There was no time for a primary (after Biden stepped down, because I've already had this conversation). They needed to get on the campaign trail asap.
Yeah that's kind of literally my point. Biden shouldn't have tried to run at all
And actually if you look closely I explicitly, unambiguously stated this in my comment here:
"not selected in any kind of primary, she was forced onto us" and then talking about how primaries are important sounds very much like you wanted a primary after Biden stepped down. I really don't think I'm the odd one out hearing it like that.
Yeah that's because you're backspacing the part of my quote where I call a Biden a dumbass for attempting a run at all. You literally backspaced the part that I put in bold for emphasis. I'm done with this
Seriously? That still sounds like you want a primary after he stepped down, it didn't change anything - especially when you say forced. You don't want forced? Sounds like you want a primary after he stepped down.
I don't know about them because I'm just jumping into this conversation but I wanted a primary a long time ago. Biden said he was only going to run once. He was in no condition to run, his pride got in the way.
Kamala was not able able to connect with working class people. Even if she had good policy ideas she was not able to address the cause of inflation and point to it well. She should have stressed that she would strengthen the FTC and go after corporate price gouging. Rather than spending half of the election taking shots at Trump, she should have looked at people's real concerns and leaned into the fact that she was a prosecutor and could really go after the people to blame.
And we were robbed of a primary by Biden.
And this is the exact sort of establishment politics that people are sick of. And the exact reason why Trump is so popular. In spite of being a total fucking shit heel.
I think we all wanted him to step down early and have a real first primary. That's not the misunderstanding, which is whether a primary should have taken place after Biden stepped down.
No I agree with you there it was too late.
Does this sort of discourse make you happy?
Nope
Fair. I get it.
You just did for yourself.
Jerk. Bully. Enjoy Trump.
You're with me for the ride whether you like it or not
May the most mature ideology win
Feudalism is back, baby!
Hey look, liberals learning absolutely nothing and being smug self-superior assholes bc people weren't willing to vote for democrats who want them dead!
So they let a Republican get elected... who wants them dead. And Ukraine dead. And Gaza dead. And women dead. And children dead.
They really stuck it to everyone, didn't they?
I didn't let jack shit get elected, I voted for kamala buddy
My mistake. I apologize and will edit my post accordingly.
What nonsense is this now?
Imagine being a Palestinian American or a Mexican American and knowing your president is actively working to make sure your people are wiped out or driven out or put in camps