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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Fun historical note: many yellow paints and dyes used in that time period had some sort of neurotoxic heavy metal (probably mercury, IIRC) that actually caused or at least exacerbated symptoms of mental illness. Many of these compounds were relatively safe to use as paint in England, but when used in warmer, humid climates, they broke down and caused hallucinations as well as respiratory complications that caused the patients to be bedridden (further worsening the symptoms).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That’s really interesting, thanks for sharing! I wonder if the author knew that, or if yellow was just used a lot.. (I’ve seen occasional older advice to paint kitchens yellow to make them “feel sunny”, but imho that’s not an easy color to live with. My mom had a patterned yellow antique couch that was just absolutely hideous.. but it was the style at some point…)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Granted I haven't read that story in a long time, but I think they knew about any of this at the time the story was written. However, I seem to recall that this was a fairly autobiographical story about the author's experiences with post-partum depression and the "treatment" thereof, so it might just be that the cost the yellow wallpaper because it mirrored her experiences

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lead makes yellow and red paints have a wonderfully bright colour.

Many children’s toys had lead paint because of course the kids liked the brighter colours.

Kids also love to chew on toys… and the lead paint even tastes sweet. It was always a recipe for disaster.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lead is definitely used in lots of old paint, but I seem to recall that this one specifically was mercury-based as mercury can induce schizophrenia and hallucinations, whereas lead's neurological effects are in the "makes you dull and slow" camp.

Also, lead was mostly used in the 1900's, IIRC. Before that they used even nastier stuff like mercury, arsenic ( I think arsenic in the paint was the cause of death for Napoleon Bonaparte) and chromium.

But then I'm not an MD or a historian; just a chemist trying to recall all of this from bits and pieces I've read over the years, so I might be way off base with some of the specifics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Apparently it was stomach cancer that did Napoleon in, though arsenic was suspected.

Lead in paints and even makeup can be traced back to the Roman Empire. It was popular long before the 1900’s!