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  • Panel 1: A person with the text "Singular 'they'" written on them smiling with open arms.
  • Panel 2: "Singular 'They'" beaten up by others who said, "Singular they is ungrammatical. It's too confusing," "How can anyone use plural pronouns for singular," and "Every pronoun should only have one purpose."
  • Panel 3: "You" hiding from the mob who was beating "Singular 'They'"
  • Panel 4: "German 'Sie'" hiding with even more fear next to "You"
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[–] [email protected] 82 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (26 children)

I have normally used "they, their and them" when referring to a singular person for about twenty years because I thought that "he/she" and "his/hers" looked ridiculous in emails.

For example; "Next time the engineer feels like he/she needs to overhaul the code..." versus "Next time the engineer feels like they need to overhaul the code...". Clean and simple.

Example of current use:

Bob - "Hey Jo, Frank thinks we should tweak widget X."

Me - "Yeah well, they don't know what the fuck they're talking about."

I don't think that sounds weird.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (13 children)

Lots of people talk past each other on this. Singular they to refer to a known single person is an invention of the last few years and is the thing that a lot of people are up in arms about. It gets confused with the centuries-old usage of using it to refer to an unknown or undetermined person. Your first example is in line with the latter, and your second example is the new usage. TBH I'd be confused by your second example. Is Frank part of some larger group that doesn't know what they're talking about? Or is it only Frank that doesn't know what he's talking about?

[–] Afrazzle 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's not a thing of the last few years I've been using it for at least a decade.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

A few years is a loose term, but it was certainly not in use by Shakespeare, unlike what people try to claim.

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