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A post is separate from the user who posted it. This post is meant to point out the tragedy going on in Gaza. It doesn't matter if OP was the one who posted it, or anyone else. Hell, it's a clip from Twitter anyway; the words aren't OP's in any way - they're just sharing them.
My point is that if you want to get mad at someone's negative traits, that's fine, but this post in this context isn't negative. Your original complaint wasn't about OP's ragebaiting, or their habit of calling people Nazis for disagreeing with them, it was about their incessant posting about the ongoing genocide at Gaza, which - again - isn't a bad thing.
Everyone has good sides and bad sides, and you chose to complain about OP's good side, then attempted to justify your complaints by pointing out the fact that they have a bad side, which isn't showcased here, and is thus irrelevant.
I think context is an important part of taking in information but I'm just weird like that apparently
My complaint is that it's suspicious to post 4-5 times every day for nearly a year on the same topic nearly every single post. You're aggressively ignoring my point.
I'm not ignoring it, it just doesn't make any sense to be annoyed that someone keeps bringing up the fact that people are dying every day for an unjust cause. It's why I accused you of wanting to ignore it - because that's the type of person that benefits from less reminders of the ongoing murders.
Yeah I'm sure the extreme obsession they have comes from a good place and they're accidentally encouraging votes for trump coincidentally
It's not an extreme obsession to think every day about an ongoing genocide. In fact, any less is unwarranted apathy. OP's other traits are less benevolent, but they aren't showcasing them here, so, again, they're irrelevant. If OP had mentioned even once that someone should vote for Trump in this thread, I'd agree with you, but you're the only one bringing it up here, so in this case, you're the problem.
What you seem to refuse to want to acknowledge is that the only reason I say any of this here is that I've remained silent after reading thousands of their posts and seeing the bad behavior more times than I can count.
There were even discussions this week between lemmy.world mods about whether to ban them from the instance. From what I've seen they absolutely should've done that, but given that they didn't, it's feeling impossible that they ever will be so yeah I wrote some comments trying to call them out.
Never once was it my goal to approach it this way but nothing else has worked. Reporting them for being toxic a dozen times has done jackshit, mods themselves agreeing with everything I'm saying here hasn't either. What would you suggest I try? Assuming you can accept I might be right about any of this.
Reject bad behavior when you see it. That's all you can do. In the same way that we need to draw attention to the holocaust over and over even though we know it likely won't stop it, we need to point out bad behavior over and over again even if it doesn't stop it. But don't point out bad behavior when there's none to be seen - that just weakens your argument.
The fact that I told you I tried that and it didn't work just flew in one ear and out the other. I meant it when I said I give up.
The fact that I said you need to keep trying even as it doesn't work clearly flew in one ear and out the other for you.
Okay, in the future I will know not to engage with you. If your position remains firm that as long as he claims to support Palestine, that I must believe him (despite a lot of contrary evidence) and keep my mouth shut, we've nothing to talk about
You can't change someone else's behavior, you can only control your own. The results are the ends, but the means are more important.
There was never any indication I was trying to change their behavior. It was pretty self explanatory that I was making others aware of it. Something they apparently give zero fucks about.
This is more the behavior I was talking about. You can't force the mods to do anything, all you can do is try, and continue to do so even as it continues to yield no meaningful results. Just like those pointing out the tragedy happening in Gaza understand their incessant posting isn't likely to change anything besides building solidarity with those who are suffering. But again, when people agree with the message behind a post, they aren't going to join you in brigading against the person posting it, even if he may be posting it for unscrupulous reasons.
At the end of the day this post didn't get anyone to vote for Trump, but it got people to think about Gaza just a little bit more, which is a good thing. If you want people to add their voices to yours crying out for OP's ban, you need to draw attention to it in places where they actually did something people will get upset about.
I noticed that you haven't posted thousands of times on any given topic. I would assume that is more because you're not an obsessed weirdo with an agenda, and less because you don't care about the bad things happening on earth.
You're right, I'm not doing all I can to raise awareness of the ongoing tragedy. That's my bad side - feel free to complain about it. I should be doing more.
Jesus Christ. I've done everything I can to show I'm not complaining about the post itself. I give up.