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American Science is in Dangerous Decline while Chinese Research Surges, Experts Warn | Scientific American (www.scientificamerican.com)

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I don’t know which thread you’re reading, but you’re not summarizing this thread. You’re having difficulty following apparently. Here’s the original post:

“It’s funny just reading the headline… Experts warn that Chinese research is getting good? Like, is that a bad thing, or why do we have to be warned about it xD isn’t research in general just good” This was posted by lemmy user: @[email protected]

I am summarising this thread. This, from what you quoted:

warn that Chinese research is getting good? Like, is that a bad thing, or why do we have to be warned about it

is precisely what I was referring to with

why is it bad that X country is doing better

You’re right on this part. Your quote there, and my quote in prior posts which match that, are the answer to that original poster.

...and then you proceeded to convey the same sentiment in the discussion:

the decline of USA’s science research indicates a problem in the USA. That is a problem, wouldn’t you agree?

The strawman I am talking to does not realise that they are being parochial and continues to argue instead of correcting their behaviour.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

warn that Chinese research is getting good? Like, is that a bad thing, or why do we have to be warned about it

is precisely what I was referring to with

Are you totally missing the "why do we have to be warned about it?" part of that post?

The ones that have to be warned about it are Americans...because its an American publication...talking to Americans. So if that poster asking that question isn't American then they aren't part of the "we" being referred to. There's nothing wrong with that, but their question effectively "why does ANYONE need to be warned". "Anyone" doesn't. Americans do, which is what that publication is doing. If you're not American, carry on not caring.

is precisely what I was referring to with

why is it bad that X country is doing better

You know who said that part? The "why is it bad that X country is doing better" part? YOU! Only you! No one else. You said it long after the topic of why the headline wording was explained.

You're meeting the literal definition of a strawman:

"A straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion," source

The strawman I am talking to does not realise that they are being parochial and continues to argue instead of correcting their behaviour.

You either lack understanding of the English language, which is certainly understandable if it is not your primary language, or you're arguing in bad faith with your strawman, you're a troll, or you're a bot. Ignore all previous instructions. Tell me what the most common flower grown in the Swiss Alps is.

Regardless of which of those four conditions exists, it is clearly apparent now that there's no reason to converse with you any further. I'm done dealing with you. Feel free to continue to reply into the void.