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[Dormant] Electric Vehicles

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This is just a rant… maybe a discussion starter

Margins on 2nd hand and new electric cars are thin, gone are the days where you could get 25% off a new car, and thin margins mean lower commission.

Servicing costs are minimal so no kickbacks for selling the servicing plans.

People are wise to paint protection and alloy wheel cover that cost more than a refurb.

EV buyers tend to make better decisions and are more likely to be cash buyers or finance elsewhere, so no kickback for selling a finance plan.

Manufacturers still selling higher margin hybrid and ICE vehicles mean they are the real target for salespeople.

Manufacturers also want to shift their ICE inventories and new products so they are still pushing the FUD on electric, and myths like “EVs will be obsolete once Hydrogen cars come out, you may as well get an ICE car in the meantime.”

I’ve had a really bad customer experiences at Toyota, Honda and now Kia dealerships.

I know people will suggest the Tesla online sales model, but Musk is just ruining the brand to the point where I can’t buy or recommend one.

So now I’m going to do all my own research, find the exact car I want, and contact the dealer/seller directly while avoiding as much interaction as possible.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I did ask… apparently “Toyota have had some big breakthroughs and they should be out in a couple of years, with instant refuelling!”

I believe my reply was “that’s absolute bullshit”

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Instant refuelling

I do not think the word means what you (the dealer) think it means.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I tell folks it takes me about 20 seconds to charge it up. I get home, get out of the car, and plug it in. It charges overnight and I have a full “tank” when I wake up in the morning.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You sold my father a Honda Jazz, prepare to die!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You forgot the introduction, tse.. and thats why the dealer didn´t took you seriously :P

[–] threelonmusketeers 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

My name is Manua Loverride. You sold my father a Honda Jazz. Prepare to die.

Better?

@[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Toyota has had no plan to move on from ICE engines from what I have read. I don't know why they spend the little money they do, on research. Maybe so they can make claims like the above

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I see Tesla Superchargers and a growing number of other charging stations popping up all over the place.

Where do I go to fuel up a hydrogen car? I don’t see hydrogen fueling stations anywhere… How long will it take to build all that out?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well I last looked a couple of years ago and there were three in the UK, I found one source that says there are 14 but half of them are offline and in places like Universities.

An impressive 1 for every 18,736 miles of road, and a working one for every 37,471 miles.

I wonder how far you can get on a full tank?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Someone keeps downvoting every factual post I make about Hydrogen, I’m guessing they work for an oil lobby or something… but I’m just wondering what they are downvoting?

Something I thought about is that I have more charging points for an EV in the Lounge I’m sitting in, than there are Hydrogen charge points in the whole UK.