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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are alot of people who are pissed off about the current system here. Makes sense, since these would be the people who are willing to push through the growing pains of the fediverse to remove themselves from corporate centralized sites.

For example, I'm not necessarily a communist, since I am not convinced it's the best alternative to our version of capitalism in America; but I will agree with the communists when they say we need to replace our broken system with something better.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree too. The problem is many communist are actually Russian propagandists. There, they "really" think communism is a viable option. But openly discussing this stuff without bias? That would be awesome. Also probably not happening

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Ironically, Russia doesn't even follow communist ideals. They are communist in name only.

[–] JungleJim 5 points 1 year ago

You're right. For a while Russia might have been considered a "regular" capitalist society following the cold war, at least by popular opinion in the west, but they've driven further and further into kleptocracy and facism. Of course, facism can be wrapped in a capitalist or communist flag. One may be a better breeding ground for facism but it can root anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They are communist in name only.

Russia hasn't been communist in even name since it was part of the USSR. The only people who really consider them communist are liberals who don't understand the difference between the USSR and the Russian Federation.

I am not the Official Spokesman of Communism, but most communities I have seen and participate in aren't pro-modern Russia. We might be against things like banning anything with "russian" in the name, but that doesn't mean we see them as the second coming of the USSR. The Russian Federation is still an imperialist capitalist nation as much as any of the others.

You have the patsocs and stuff that might be more on board with Russia, but we don't really claim them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Man anti-communism propaganda is so ingrained yet they still don't know how real communism work (not saying is good though). Same as using facism for anything red-wing.

[–] bernieecclestoned 1 points 1 year ago

In 1991, Mikhail Gorbachev removed the constitutional role of the Communist Party. Because of this it allowed non-communists to take power. As a result, Boris Yeltsin then became the first president of Russia.

Russia hasn't been communist in over 30 years, the Soviet Union collapsed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True. But there's this kind of nostalgia for communism and what started the revanchism of the late '90s in KGB officials and Putin that stopped Russia's evolution in a free country. Kind of sad, they have now the worst of both worlds

[–] bernieecclestoned 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia has never been a free country, tsars, communists, oligarchy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It never was. But for a brief time, it was on the verge of becoming one. Then came Putin

[–] bernieecclestoned 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That attitude already though.. otherwise it could have been the beginning of a bright future