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Google is laying off more employees and hiring for their roles outside of the U.S.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

You know how most of the software engineers in India feel? Like they are even more micromanaged, overworked and deprived of agency in the work place than US tech workers.

I want software engineers and India and Mexico to earn a living wage just as much as I want software engineers living in my city to earn a living wage and have a workplace that treats them with decency (and doesn’t try to treat humans like robots).

I am sure most Indians and Mexican software engineers feel that way about software engineers from other countries too.

The only zero sum game here is between all of us and the ruling class and if you don’t see that now I hope one day in the future that thought will find you with an open mind.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I know how they feel because I work with them daily. They feel blessed because they earn sometimes 10 times more than their parents for work much less hard, in particular those coming from farming families. They are not earning a "living wage", they are earning a "live almost in luxury" wage, 20 to 30 lakh a year, which is still 10 times less than silicon valley. They work in a nice office with Air Conditioning, or directly from home if they want.

That being said, software engineers EVERYWHERE are earning "a living wage" at least. We are way overpaid, in fact, compared to social workers or teachers. A company with hundreds of thousands of employees relocating some positions to other countries is just mundane.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That being said, software engineers EVERYWHERE are earning “a living wage” at least. We are way overpaid, in fact, compared to social workers or teachers. A company with hundreds of thousands of employees relocating some positions to other countries is just mundane.

Who said violence and class warfare can’t be mundane in practice?

We are way overpaid

No y’all aren’t, the problem is rather that everybody else is way underpaid

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's the same thing, I explicitly compared it to other people. It's relative.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

That’s the same thing

Please please please open your heart and listen to me a second.

It is not the same thing. There is a lot of research on this and it turns out it is not as simple as one person winning means another person losing (or 5…). The reason the world is currently set up this way is a choice made by an economic class of people to mortgage the entire future of another economic class of people, into a doomed construction of decay that can only ever collapse in flames.

That is the crux of literally this whole miserable slush of suffering we are in.

The only truly zero sum game here is between the ruling class getting to own everything and the rest of us getting to live a decent quality of life.

If you don’t listen to anything else I say, fine, I mean I can be insufferable as fuck, but consider the truths in that point alone outside the context of my nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I hear you (well, read you), I just disagree.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

thank you for opening your heart for me and giving it a go!

take a pizza for your travels 🍕

waait fuck there is a rat down over there in the corner by the barrels quick GET THE PIZZA BEFORE THE RAT GETS IT.

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