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[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago (5 children)

The thing is, a lot of the people voting for RFK are low information voters, and low information voters don’t pay attention to endorsements. They’re checked out.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

My mother is planning to vote Republican this year because she "doesn't pay attention to that political crap"

I keep telling her that she really needs to pay attention because she's on disability, gets medical benefits from the government, food stamps, etc.

Yet she still refuses to get informed.

I've tried talking to her about politics, I've tried showing her what Republicans are doing, I've tried asking her what she'd do if her benefits went away, etc. all she does is get angry about trying to bring politics into a discussion.

At this point I've told her that if the worst should happen with Republicans getting their way and she loses her benefits I don't plan to help her at all. She'll be at the mercy of her own decisions. (Something her and my dad have said to my siblings and I a lot growing up.)

Edit: She votes Republican straight down the ballot every single election. And for positions where people don't declare their political party she doesn't vote for those positions because she, "Won't trust a rat who won't say who they are."

Edit 2: I accidentally a word or 2.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

She votes Republican straight down the ballot every single election. And for positions where people don't declare their political party she doesn't vote for those positions because she, "Won't trust a rat who won't say who they are."

"Doesn't pay attention to that political crap"

So that was a fucking lie.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Exactly

She's straight up got the Republican brain worms bad.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

At this point I’ve told her that if the worst should happen with Republicans getting their way and she loses her benefits I don’t plan to help her at all. She’ll be at the mercy of her own decisions. (Something her and my dad have said to my siblings and I a lot growing up.)

I'm curious, what did she say to that?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"They wouldn't do that."

You know, the thing they constantly say they're going to do.

She doesn't even consider it a possibility so me saying that I won't help her if it happens is a non-thing.

And if you're curious, her opinion on the repeal of abortion rights is also shitty. "I live in a state where I can get one so it's not an issue."

And when I mention that it's a possibility that if Republicans gain power they'll pass a national ban she again shoots it down as something that they wouldn't do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Sounds like she's in denial. Does she also change the subject when losing an argument?

Anyways, I think you have better chances addressing her denialism than to argue any other political point. As long as someone won't argue in good faith, all other arguements and debates become pointless diversions.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A big public noisy endorsement might reach a few though. Not all, but some, and every bit helps

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I’ll take it, but I feel like this will only shave off fractions off a percent.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If the election is as close as it was in 2020, that's enough to swing the outcome.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

True, although that election didn’t have a 3rd party candidate polling as high as this one. Biden is going to have to eat more into RFK.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Many are but not all. He’s got some devoted followers

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Correct. He has some legit fans, but most of his polling numbers are from people who are not really tuned.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

A lot of them are Roganites. Not checked out, bit low quality information.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They also are likely attaching value to the name Kennedy though, and so other Kennedys may have outsized influence with them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah, but they’re not watching the political news and listening to anything the candidates, or their families are saying.

They just see “Trump, Biden, or Kennedy” on a ballot, and think “Trump and Biden aren’t my favorites, but I think I remember the Kennedys being cool once upon a time.”